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I watch it just so I can root for the Japanese whalers too....I about cheered when the terrorists batman lookin' boat nearly went under the keel of one of the whaling ships....
or when the heroic Sea Shepards have to run from a whaling boat with a water hose on the front of it.....
 
Terrorists is right!! I can't stand the commercials. Haven't forced myself to watch a real show.
I think my doctor wouldn't like me to.
 
Yep me too. I don't really agree with what the Japanese ships are doing, but they are technically not breaking the law. So these maroons should really back off. Saw one the other day where they rammed a Japanese ship. How is that not a crime?
 
How are these people not considered pirates? the whale boat should be armed and allowed to sink those idiots when they ram them or throw stink bombs at them.
 
.......or when they boarded the Japanese vessel, it is a wonder the whalers didn't make them walk the plank, or drag them back to Osaka for a fair trial
 
did anyone see the episode where the hero was "shot" by the Japanese, and some badge he had under his shirt "stopped" the bullet.....
I threw the BS flag all over the living room......what a load of crap
 
sheriffoconee said:
did anyone see the episode where the hero was "shot" by the Japanese, and some badge he had under his shirt "stopped" the bullet.....
I threw the BS flag all over the living room......what a load of crap
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My wife hates it when I throw the BS flag at the TV. It can get quite brutal at times-like for instance when the defense attorney is questioning the chief accuser in a homicide case and he breaks down under cross examination and confesses to the murder and the DA stands up and dismisses the charges :D
 
I think Japan should build some more battleships and blow those pirates/terrorists out of the water.

They should also be hung for piracy in the U.S. also.

Let them try that with an Alaskan native tribal hunt, see what happens. *popcorn*

I'm of the opinion that endangered species should be eliminated. :p No more problems. ;)

Anyone else have a copy of the Chipmunk Cookbook? My favorites are spotted owl suprise and braised lemon herb manatee.
 
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Paul Watson, who captains the eco-whackos' ship, has quite a history of violence directed against those he deems worthy of attack. I think his real goal is to get some of his fellow shipmates killed and thereby create a firestorm of protest that will end whaling.
 
I'm with Sip, sort of. Whaling should be ended.

However here's where I differ. The "whaling pirates" should be sunk and left to their own devices. THAT would cause the firestorm to end whaling.

But is also might knock some sense into the people who think they have a "right" to forcibly infringe on your rights.
 
Good thing the whalers aren't flying the "Rising Sun" battle flag of the IJN.

Might see some Real action if they did.........
 
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the japanese have the male crewmember on trial in TOYKO for boarding their ship at night.he was going aboard the whaler to arrest the captain.big mistake/// he had a knife in his pocket..he faces at least 2 yrs. in prison...i can see no reason for killing whales but the law is the law.............
 
Here in the Northwest, we have that same type of terrorist, pounding spikes into trees, blockading roads, and generally creating havoc for guys just trying to do their job. I say, "Take out the guy with the camera first!".
 
I am opposed to whaling too. Having said that, an Ecoterrorist is still a terrorist. The Japanese have every right to defend themselves.
 
My wife watches the show. It ticks me off so bad that I can't stay in the same room when its on. We've had a number of "spirited discussions" about it.
Its like trying to talk common sense to a liberal. No amount of reason, law or facts can change the mind of a person who's beliefs are firmly rooted in emotion.
Now mind you, I like whales. I don't like that they're being hunted. But it is legal.
Eco-terrorism is still terrorism. These Sea Shepards are nothing more than pirates and should be treated as such.
Every time I see this show it makes me think about the fate of the Rainbow Warrior.
 
Maybe it shouldn't be legal to kill whales for "research" if this is how they are doing it. Not too often that research projects end up on the supper table. This is the only whale product that hasn't been replaced with something better,cheaper or synthetic.
 
CARBON FIBER BOAT

watch what happens when the little super boat gets in to close to the harpoon ship.the colision was on the internet this past spring.the harpoon ship shortened the carbon fiber super boat about 5 feet.the super boat sank about 2 days later.no lives were lost......
 
I guess I'm bored today, so I'll chime in. I just wish the eco-terrorists, as they have been called here, were a little smarter with their tactics. Sometimes they don't seem all that smart. I think they lose track of their inflatable on every other episode. And the japenese are starting to sue better firepower like bigger "water" guns and their doohicky that disorientes you with sound waves. Obviously they're well funded, which to me is suspicious for a research vessel.
Having said that, killing endangered species is illegal. I am sure many of us are hunters and can understand the importance of prudent management and harvesting of a species. I would think that their loss would be tragic. I am sure none of you are the type to run out and poach game anytime you choose. The whales they are killing are very low in numbers in comparison to other species.
The reason Japanese whalers get away with it is because they claim it is for "research." If they are guiltless then why do they paint RESEARCH in huge letters on their boats. This seems rather defensive to me.
I am not sure why everyone is ready to defend these Japanese whalers that you likely don't even benefit from anyway.
 
dacoontz said:
I guess I'm bored today, so I'll chime in. I just wish the eco-terrorists, as they have been called here, were a little smarter with their tactics. Sometimes they don't seem all that smart. I think they lose track of their inflatable on every other episode. And the japenese are starting to sue better firepower like bigger "water" guns and their doohicky that disorientes you with sound waves. Obviously they're well funded, which to me is suspicious for a research vessel.
Having said that, killing endangered species is illegal. I am sure many of us are hunters and can understand the importance of prudent management and harvesting of a species. I would think that their loss would be tragic. I am sure none of you are the type to run out and poach game anytime you choose. The whales they are killing are very low in numbers in comparison to other species.
The reason Japanese whalers get away with it is because they claim it is for "research." If they are guiltless then why do they paint RESEARCH in huge letters on their boats. This seems rather defensive to me.
I am not sure why everyone is ready to defend these Japanese whalers that you likely don't even benefit from anyway.
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Have you read the same thread as everyone else? Not everyone is defending the Japanese. Several posters here have said that what they are doing is wrong.. Most people are also saying that the whale warriors are as wrong in their pirate like actions. You appear to want them to be more effective pirates. I do agree with you, though, that they don't seem very smart or effective.

Further, there is a little more involved than you or I going out and poaching an Ivory Billed Woodpecker from the backyard. It is a matter of international law, which is always sketchy anyway. Who enforces it? What if a country simply doesn't recognize that they need to obey you so-called laws.

I think it unnecessary, the killing of these whales, but I won't condemn the Japanese for it.
 
True, not everyone is against the ecofreeks here. And to clarify, I am against the Japanese whalers, not the Japanese in general. For all I know they could be chinese guys actually funding the work, or europeans for that matter. It seems that the pro-whale boats have become more aggressive in response to more aggression from the whalers. It seems that most of the time they are simply trying to make it difficult for them to get to the whales and harrassing them seems to be the best method, but I would hardly compare them to the pirates we have been seeing out of Eastern Africa. I don't think they are interested in hurting anyone but just the typical sierra club type tactics like living in trees and stuff. I think a lot of respectable environmental movements get easily grouped with extremists that are resonsible for spiking trees and burning down buildings, not the same by a long shot.
 
Perspective.

It always comes down to perspective.
The taking of life is about as old as life itself.
Our ethics and morals make us say that it should only be done for food or to preserve life and property. If you don't agree with taking life to preserve property, please throw away your bug spray and mouse traps and quit treating your home for termites.

Back to perspective-
If the whalers are acting legally, we have no right to impose our standards or desires on them any more than they have a right to impose their standards on us. Be careful what you wish for with the 'international treaty' stuff. Bear in mind how many nations think it barbaric that we run around armed to the teeth......

The eco-freaks harassing the whalers most definitely fall into the same class legally as pirates. Simply reverse the circumstances, and tell me when you would tolerate a US ship operating in open water, bothering no one and no nation, being harassed, rammed, or boarded.

I keep drifting, though.
Back to perspective-
The japanese eat whales. I must assume that the whale does not hold his life any dearer than the salmon and tuna and shrimp that I eat. Though I would hate to see whales disappear from the earth, I can't come up with a good argument for forcing other nations to do my will outside my national borders when no threat to my safety and sovreignty is involved.
So, what is it about whales? Is it because they are big, or smart, or fellow mammals, or what? Dunno. Like I said, I'd hate to see a world without whales, but not so much without rats, or flies, or mosquitos.

Interesting what our hearts bleed for. Nobody dares to say they are ambivalent about dogs or even cats. Everybody wants to save every mongrel mutt ever whelped, and find it a good home, and let it live happily everafter. I wonder why they don't feel as warm and fuzzy about all the horses that have to die to feed Fido for the next ten years......

So, perspective.
It always comes down to perspective.
You better defend the japanese whaler like you want your gun rights defended.
 
Lee said it well...

As a youngin' my Dad's business was offshore Lobstering. We also stuck swordfish for a living. We havested countless lobsters and hundreds of swordfish in the nine years that I lived my life on the Frantic Atlantic.

Unfortunatley, we occassionally had a basking shark roll up in our lobster trawls. They'd do what all sharks do when they hit a line, twist...and they'd ball up five to ten traps with them. They'd simply drown, not being able to swim. Great and amazing creature's that would die so that those able to afford the delicacy of lobster could dine on those crustaceans.

Bet those folks felt no guilt....
 
I'm with you sip. I think what makes whales different is there diminishing numbers. Bad example, but would you be okay with another nation killing bald eagles because it is part of their diet? I just want to be able to take my kids to the coast in 20 years and still have them see a whale swim in the ocean. Granted, perspective is key and things are not always what they seem as media has a tendency to influence our perspective and since I don't get down to antarctica all that often maybe the issue isn't as dire.
 
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