OpsMgr
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Thanks Gentlemen. Thought that might be the one...
APEX TACTICAL TRIGGER KIT FOR THE SHIELD
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OpsMgr
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I seem to remember seeing a vid clip about that on You Tube. May have to make one from an old drill bit or hex key...
Same here..I didn't have a slave pin. I actually didn't even use pliers. I looked from the top as I pushed the pin in and pulled the spring forward with my punch, lol. It worked. Not hard at all.
OpsMgr
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Thanks. I had thought of using a pick to pull the spring as well. Frau Ops has some really small needle nose pliers she uses for making jewelry. Maybe she will let me use them if need be...
OpsMgr
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Sight pusher in hand and DCAEK due in my mailbox today. Moonman, what did you use to apply heat to the rear sight set screw to break loose the red loctite?
On my Shield the set screw just unscrewed without heat.
Penetrating Oil in set screw hole and rear sight, let set a bit, then use sight pusher. If a little heat is needed, maybe a BIC TYPE GRILL LIGHTER.
Set screw takes a 1 1/16 Allen wrench.
MINE (the Sight itself) was really TIGHT in the dovetail.
Penetrating Oil in set screw hole and rear sight, let set a bit, then use sight pusher. If a little heat is needed, maybe a BIC TYPE GRILL LIGHTER.
Set screw takes a 1 1/16 Allen wrench.
MINE (the Sight itself) was really TIGHT in the dovetail.
OpsMgr
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Thanks Moonman!
OpsMgr
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OpsMgr
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Just finished installing the Apex Tactical DCAEK sear, sear spring and trigger return spring - Took me about 20 minutes.
The sear housing roll pin did not want to go back in as easily as it came out and I did NOT want to force it. Used the 1/8" roll pin punch to double check the alignment of the sear block in the frame and got her back in place with some light tapping.
Threading the trigger pin back through the trigger return spring was a little tricky. Used a very thin punch to hold the return spring loop in place from the right side of the frame while pushing the trigger pin in from the left. Had to whisper words of encouragement to the pin and spring - My old dog thought I was talking to him. A slave pin would have made the task stupid simple.
Still have to install the striker block. Hoping the rear sight is not a PITA to remove.
I'm very pleased with the resulting trigger pull on my Shield with the sear, sear spring and trigger return spring installed. Can't wait to make a trip to the range.
Thanks to Moonman and others for answering my questions and a big thanks to Apex Tactical for their fine product!
The sear housing roll pin did not want to go back in as easily as it came out and I did NOT want to force it. Used the 1/8" roll pin punch to double check the alignment of the sear block in the frame and got her back in place with some light tapping.
Threading the trigger pin back through the trigger return spring was a little tricky. Used a very thin punch to hold the return spring loop in place from the right side of the frame while pushing the trigger pin in from the left. Had to whisper words of encouragement to the pin and spring - My old dog thought I was talking to him. A slave pin would have made the task stupid simple.
Still have to install the striker block. Hoping the rear sight is not a PITA to remove.
I'm very pleased with the resulting trigger pull on my Shield with the sear, sear spring and trigger return spring installed. Can't wait to make a trip to the range.
Thanks to Moonman and others for answering my questions and a big thanks to Apex Tactical for their fine product!
OpsMgr
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The slave pin included in the kit does not work for the Shield...
The Slave Pin included in the Apex DCEAK kit FITS S&W M&P'S BUT NOT the M&P SHIELD (it's Narrower).
Apex is supposedly working on Slave Pin for the Shield, until they do, use some needle-nose pliers or a dental pick to pull on the spring to fit the end to the pin.
Opsmgr,
Keep us updated on your progress with the rear sight removal.
Apex is supposedly working on Slave Pin for the Shield, until they do, use some needle-nose pliers or a dental pick to pull on the spring to fit the end to the pin.
Opsmgr,
Keep us updated on your progress with the rear sight removal.
OpsMgr
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Had a go at the rear sight removal last night. Sight set screw was easily removed w/o applying heat. Soaked the rear sight dove tail in CLP for over and hour. Lined the slide up carefully in the sight pusher BUT could NOT get the rear sight to budge!
Gonna contact my buddy who is a gunsmith for some help. If that doesn't work then I'll have a good excuse to send the slide off for some new sights, USB install and maybe a new finish on the slide...
Thanks texas48! Worked great with rear sights for M&P Shield and FS M&P 45. Had a 'smith swap out the front sights.
Received an eMail last night from Jon at Apex stating that they don't have M&P Shield Slave Pins yet. At this time, he recommended using a Pin Punch to line everything up and keep the trigger spring in place while sliding the trigger pin in from other side.
I received a newsletter yesterday from Apex that had an interesting tidbit of information on trigger kits for the Shield.
Here's the quoted info from Apex pertaining to the new kits:
"Shield Kit Pending Release- Scott
We've been hinting at a new drop in kit specifically for the new M&P Shield since the guns release in April and now it's about time to deliver. We've gotten in the final components and are working on assembling Shield kits now. They're going to be called the Shield Carry Kit (SCK). They'll set the trigger pull to the mid 5lb range, smooth up the over all feel of the trigger and shorten reset, everything you need in a reliable slim line carry pistol. We have the release of the SCK set for Thursday July 12th. The SCK will be available to our network of dealers and distributors for the release day."
Sounds like good news!
Here's the quoted info from Apex pertaining to the new kits:
"Shield Kit Pending Release- Scott
We've been hinting at a new drop in kit specifically for the new M&P Shield since the guns release in April and now it's about time to deliver. We've gotten in the final components and are working on assembling Shield kits now. They're going to be called the Shield Carry Kit (SCK). They'll set the trigger pull to the mid 5lb range, smooth up the over all feel of the trigger and shorten reset, everything you need in a reliable slim line carry pistol. We have the release of the SCK set for Thursday July 12th. The SCK will be available to our network of dealers and distributors for the release day."
Sounds like good news!
crashoverrideplik
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I chose the bigger hammer option and it still didn't come off. Needed an excuse to put a 10-8 sight set anyway. It's at a GS friends getting removed. I did the comp kit. It's what all 4 of my M&P's have. I noticed with installing the USB the trigger was very crunchy so I put the stock trigger spring in for now. I'll report what it's like after the USB install.
Also You can use a awl or scribe align your trigger spring in the gun. It's really quick.
My Shield, after 400 rounds, and hundreds of dry fires still had a factory trigger that was just under 8# with a crisp break and no overtravel. OK, but a little heavy for my tastes. I ordered a Apex Hard Sear to see what it would do for me. With the great information on YouTube including a video on removing the safety, if needed, to get the sear pin out, I started.
I went very slowly and carefully. I used a straight pin punch and it did not mar anything. Sear assembly came out easily with a little wiggling of the trigger as I was pulling it out. The safety is kind of like a kids puzzle and it can be manipulated into a position that will not require removal. Watch yourself when removing the sear pin. I was not totally prepared for the force of the spring under the sear but I could have easily lost the plunger if I was not aware of what was under the sear. The new Apex sear dropped right in place. I did spend a lot of time making sure I did not force the sear assembly back into the gun. This took up 75% of the entire install time as I went very slowly not forcing anything. As per the YouTube video I checked the guns functions. All OK and good to go. Start to finish under 15 minutes.
New trigger has a longer takeup or "free play" to a clean break at
5-3/4# with no overtravel. Perfect for a SD gun. I am not currently feeling any real grittiness in the pull at all. I am going to give it a few hundred dry fires and a lot more rounds downrange before I decide on any other trigger mods. If I feel the need, I will do them after I find a set of Meprolight TruDots to put on.
Thanks to Moonman, the OP, and all others in the this thread that helped me make the decision to do this mod myself. It was a piece of cake.
I went very slowly and carefully. I used a straight pin punch and it did not mar anything. Sear assembly came out easily with a little wiggling of the trigger as I was pulling it out. The safety is kind of like a kids puzzle and it can be manipulated into a position that will not require removal. Watch yourself when removing the sear pin. I was not totally prepared for the force of the spring under the sear but I could have easily lost the plunger if I was not aware of what was under the sear. The new Apex sear dropped right in place. I did spend a lot of time making sure I did not force the sear assembly back into the gun. This took up 75% of the entire install time as I went very slowly not forcing anything. As per the YouTube video I checked the guns functions. All OK and good to go. Start to finish under 15 minutes.
New trigger has a longer takeup or "free play" to a clean break at
5-3/4# with no overtravel. Perfect for a SD gun. I am not currently feeling any real grittiness in the pull at all. I am going to give it a few hundred dry fires and a lot more rounds downrange before I decide on any other trigger mods. If I feel the need, I will do them after I find a set of Meprolight TruDots to put on.
Thanks to Moonman, the OP, and all others in the this thread that helped me make the decision to do this mod myself. It was a piece of cake.
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