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Any one try one of these on a J frame?
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The sell good parts but you'll just have to try it and see if you like it. I found the rebound spring too soft.
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I have used plenty of Wolff springs, but not Apex, or any other brand. Not saying it is a bad product, but the Wolff shooters-pack goes for less than $25. I have reduced effort Wolff springs in all my j-frames...even my 317's.
Sorry to jump in like this, but, how'd you like it in the 317?
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I think it is better to take your J frame to a reputable gunsmith and have a real action job done. I just had both my 340 and 360 done. When I dropped them off they were at 11.5 and 12.5 lbs after they were both at just under 8.5. The gunsmith popped off the sideplate and showed me the MIM parts that had all kinds of extra material hanging off them and hindering the contact points. He installed a set of Wolfs tuned it and checked all clearances,timing and function. He also chamfered and polished the cylinder bores , no more sticking brass. The grand total was 95 bucks per and I am finally happy with my J's.
I think it is better to take your J frame to a reputable gunsmith and have a real action job done. I just had both my 340 and 360 done. When I dropped them off they were at 11.5 and 12.5 lbs after they were both at just under 8.5. The gunsmith popped off the sideplate and showed me the MIM parts that had all kinds of extra material hanging off them and hindering the contact points. He installed a set of Wolfs tuned it and checked all clearances,timing and function. He also chamfered and polished the cylinder bores , no more sticking brass. The grand total was 95 bucks per and I am finally happy with my J's.
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You're lucky to have someone local that knows his way around a revolver. Most don't have that option available and shipping your gun off to someone can be a real investment in the unknown.
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TACCI....the springs "tame" the TP on the 317. I have two snubbies. One for the wife and one for me and I could have lived with the pull like it was, but I set both of them up so she could use either. Of course....they still don't feel like a K-Frame, but the TP is certainly more manageable. The Wolff springs took her from a two-finger pull to a one finger pull. If I ever have another chance, I may try the Apex to see if there is a difference.I have had no issues at all with FTF with any brand of ammo I feed them with the Wolff 9-pound spring and I use the 13-pound rebound spring....that's the lightest in the kit. The other important part is to look for trigger and hammer rubs.
My wife bought a new 442 Air weight a couple of months ago. She loves the gun but she has tiny hands and the trigger pull is just enough to effect her accuracy. Would having a Gun Smith lighten the trigger up be a good thing to do. I shoot auto's so I am not up on revolvers as much. Would Wolff springs be a good option for her?
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If she just needs a "little" a 13# rebound spring may fix her right up. The next step would be a reduced-power hammer spring. To answer your question, either the Wolff springs, or Apex kit will reduce her TP. But if you plan to take it to a Smith anyway....let him have-his-head and do what he thinks is best....IF he is any good.
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If you know someone that honestly knows how to tune a J frame, I would let them work on it. Otherwise, 1000 dry fires, clean and lube plus the Apex kit will do wonders for the gun.
There were a couple of guys (Randy Lee and another guy) from Apex at the LAGATOR USPSA match a week ago. They did both of my J-Frames while I was shooting the match. The guns feel great. I don't think the light rebound spring is much of an issue on these little defensive guns. I think what is most important on these little guns is the most accurate first shot you can get.
Thanks everyone for info and replies. I will take you advise and fix her up. She shots great with the gun, just that she has such small hands and is a small person that her follow up shots are a little off. Thanks again everyone!
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I live with one of those "small-handed" little girls too. Mean as a bobcat, but just can't pull a stock trigger....especially on a j-frame. She loves the 617 and even the 686 with 38-special loads, but it doesn't fit in her purse very well. If I can get her to shoot the small-frame like the 317...you should be able to get your roommate up and running with a spring/trigger job. I have mine shooting light-loaded 38-spcl in an AirLite, but I can't prize the little 317 away from her.
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If'n you folks can wait a few weeks I will have a 3 manufacturers spring shoot out. I'm performing this experiment across 3 of my J frames both new and old including a 22lr version. The test will be very extensive and probably answer all burning questions about aftermarket springs including reliabilty and ammo igniton issues.
Please don't ask any questions about this, I won't answer them. But if you are in the market for an aftermarket spring kit, you may want to wait until my experiment is finished. Without revealing too much at this point, I will say the experiment is nearly complete on one J frame and the results are a tad surprising.
I'll be posting this in the gunsmithing section with a link in this section.
Please don't ask any questions about this, I won't answer them. But if you are in the market for an aftermarket spring kit, you may want to wait until my experiment is finished. Without revealing too much at this point, I will say the experiment is nearly complete on one J frame and the results are a tad surprising.
I'll be posting this in the gunsmithing section with a link in this section.
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We will await your results with baited-breath.
Tell me....does this involve any springs from the local Ace Hardware Store (serious). I have read where folks have had some success with off-the-shelf hardware-store springs.
Tell me....does this involve any springs from the local Ace Hardware Store (serious). I have read where folks have had some success with off-the-shelf hardware-store springs.
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Oy vey! Why in the world would anyone do that?! Aftermarket gun springs are less than $20! How much is your life worth?
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Not me....I'm just repeating what I read somewhere. I can see where it may be entirely possible to find one that would work as a firing-pin spring, but that's about all I would trust....in a tight at that.
I will be waiting. Can't keep her in Ammo now!! Can't wait until she get a lighter trigger where she will enjoy it even more. I watch for your results.
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