Ar15 unpleasant recoil?

iron6

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I can already see you tough guys getting ready to have a field day but hear me out.

I can shoot hundreds of rounds through a mosin nagant comfortably so I don't believe I'm recoil sensitive. But sometgimg about the ar recoil is well uncomfortable. Shooting a bolt action .223 is almost as recoil free as a .22 Its almost imperceptible but the ar seems to "sting" or have a certain sharpness to it. I'm kind of wondering If it's thr textured stock on it. Does anyone have some input?

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Man up...the evil rifle has tiny recoil

I can shoot a mosin or 3" 12 gauge slugs comfortably. In fact I could shoot larger.

That being said it may very well be muzzle blast. It's sort of a shock feeling

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Severely overgassed?

I can't relate.

Even this with its complete lack of stock and super short gas tube is not bad:
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Shoulder, it's more of a unpleasant feeling in thr general area. It's hard to explain

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Can't relate my friend.
Never heard of a 5.56mm being hard on a shooter thru
an AR15. Or any rifle.
Try a different hold and snuggle it up tighter
to your shoulder.
If you can shoot 3" 12 gauge slugs with no problem then
i am at a loss to explain this.

Chuck
 
Where is this feeling? In your cheek or in your shoulder?

This was a problem for me. I used to think 12 gauge shotguns were just plain unshootable. I tried fancy recoil pads. I tried light loads. Turns out, they didn't fit me and the stock was impacting my cheekbone every shot. It made recoil *unpleasant.* I finally found a shotgun with enough drop at the comb that made shooting a 12 gauge tolerable. (Wood stocked Remington 870). Now I shoot a wood stocked Remington 20 gauge that I would call pleasant.

Learn from my experience; figure out where it is unpleasant and work from there. Rastoff is on the right track.
 
I might need to tuck it in harder. I don't usually hold it as tighylu as bigger guns. So I may just need to play around.

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If the stock is adjustable, try different lengths. It may just not fit you right.

FWIW, AR15's are what I use for teaching new shooters after they have graduated from rimfires. With proper hearing protection, of course. They are loud, particularly with 16" barrels and flash hiders or muzzle brakes.
 
Shoulder, it's more of a unpleasant feeling in thr general area. It's hard to explain
When I hear a complaint like yours, I immediately think of gun fit. The AR fits almost no one, but it's not as critical as a shotgun because of how it's used.

How do you mount the gun? There are different ways to shoulder the gun. One is to have your head erect and just the toe in your shoulder. Another is to put the full pad along your shoulder and bring your head down to the stock. From an accuracy standpoint the first is best because the shooter is most relaxed in that position. From an aggressive standpoint the second is better because the shooter will be able to control the rifle better for multiple follow up shots.

Check to see if the stock is hitting your collar bone.


Now I shoot a wood stocked Remington 20 gauge that I would call pleasant.
Shotguns are a different animal. As the guns come from the factory they fit almost no one correctly. Finding the correct fit for a shotgun is rarely about a new pad. Most often they have the wrong pitch. It took a long time, but I finally broke down and had a custom stock made. Now I feel almost no recoil from my shotgun.
 
If the stock is adjustable, try different lengths. It may just not fit you right.

Where do you have your stock set? If you have it extended to far, it could be causing you to over extend and force the butt off the shoulder and onto the collar bone. The factory stock has somewhat aggressive checkering on the butt, so this could become uncomfortable. Try shooting it at different lengths, or try a pad.

There has to be something going on, the AR platform just doesn't have any recoil to speak of. As a Drill Sgt. and instructor, I'm one of those guys who fired from the chin and the nuts. My voice hasn't gotten any higher and there's no wire in my jaw. Have faith my friend, we'll get it figured out. :D

Good Luck and good shooting.
 
Did I miss it, or has nobody asked what type of stock he's using?

If it's one of the chintzy, standard M4 stocks, you might wanna consider a Magpul CTR or MOE. Also, I believe companies make hydraulic buffers to take the spring out of the equation, if it's that "action" that's bothering you.
 
Yes, this is an important question.

This stock...
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...will have a different feel than this stock...
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Bonus points if you can see why.

The upper is a fixed stock?

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DPMS stock is designed to hook into the armpit, the Tapco is designed to ride higher on the shoulder.

If I win do I get to choose door number 3? ;)
 
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