Ar15 unpleasant recoil?

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I don't know why but when I shoot my Smith & Wesson M&P sport II. The stock digs in to my solder. Which is uncomfortable but not unbearable. My friend who owns a really nice AR-15 shot it and said the same thing. The M&P Sport II is a very nice AR-15 but it's stock is just ****ing awful.

The basic stock on the Sport is no different from the basic stock that comes on a Colt, FN, or any other rifle that comes with the GI type stock...

 

[Brian in Oregon]

What muzzle brake or flash hider is on the gun? Some of them I nickname "Loudeners". Some like the AK74 style brake are just flat out painful to shoot from a hearing standpoint.

This is my Kel-Tec PLR-16 .223 with a 9" barrel. It is PAINFULLY loud without proper hearing protection, and by that I mean both squishy plugs AND ear muffs. Muzzle flash for most ammo is about the size of a watermelon. It's just not a pleasant gun to fire, yet recoil is like a .357 Magnum in a S&W Model 27.

(And yes, it is tax stamped as an AOW so the vertical fore grip is legal.)

 

[bloodlord77]

You can also run a full auto bcg, an "H", or "H2" buffer, and springco spring if you're not already. This will slow down the action, and soften up the felt recoil significantly over a semi auto bcg, carbine buffer and spring.

 

[hdwhit]

iron6 wrote:
Its almost imperceptible but the ar seems to "sting" or have a certain sharpness to it.

What make and model AR is it?

Has it been modified since it was purchased? If so, what were the modifications?

Are you shooting factory ammunition or reloaded ammunition? If reloads, what bullet weight and powder charge are you using?

 

[Ranger98]

I just added a rubber recoil pad to mine.Problem solved

 

[jake1945]

You need to see a doctor because you definitely have a serious shoulder problem.
A rubber recoil pad on an AR? You're kidding right?

 

[TX-Dennis]

This is perplexing. I would tend toward believing it's a fit issue, but I have shot my two ARs with the stock fully extended, fully retracted, and pretty much everything in between. The recoil is not much more than that of a 22LR. The muzzle blast is jarring, though. Especially to those standing nearby. I don't really notice it when I'm shooting - only when some one else is.

I'm guessing something is amiss in your buffer setup or the stock you are using just hits you in the wrong place. Take the buffer out and clean the tube and spring. See if anything is broken. Maybe try a slightly heavier or lighter buffer or a newer spring and see what that does.

 

[ChattanoogaPhil]

Muzzle brake is another consideration.

I did a couple vids of the wife with two of my 16in carbines. See the difference in muzzle rise and her being pushed around between a bare muzzle and a Lantac brake. My wife's review was.... The one with the muzzle thingie is a lot nicer to shoot.

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[jabrooks07]

I don't know why but when I shoot my Smith & Wesson M&P sport II. The stock digs in to my solder. Which is uncomfortable but not unbearable. My friend who owns a really nice AR-15 shot it and said the same thing. The M&P Sport II is a very nice AR-15 but it's stock is just ****ing awful.

i agree completely. i think im going with the daniel defense stock on mine. it seems to just fit. I got a really nice ati stock laying around but its for a commercial tube. it came off a DB-15

 

[hugger-4641]

I have a friend who has an Ar-15 with a custom muzzle break that is ported back towards the rifle. It is horrible to shoot compared to my stock Sport II.

 

[kpoesq369]

It may be muzzle blast, especially with a brake as opposed to a flash hider, but it might be the buffer bottoming out. Next time it's field stripped take a look at the rear of the buffer. May need either a new spring or a heavier buffer. For the 16" guns that have 4 different weights, running from unmarked at the lightest and H1,2 or 3 as they get heavier.

 

[Maddmax]

Try going in a completely different direction.

Move up to a mid-length or rifle length gas system and get away from the carbine length system.

That or add a gas block and settle that thing down a bit.

As old as this post is, I'm thinking you already dumped it anyway.

 

[WR Moore]

I didn't post on this because I've never had a recoil issue with .223/5/56mm.

The other night I was shooting and experience severe pain. I realized that I'd assumed a position where the rifle butt was squarely on my collar bone. There's no padding there and boy, that smarts.

OP, if you're still with us, you need to alter your shooting position/gun mount. The rifle butt needs to be on muscle tissue, not sensitive body parts.

 

[Wanderling]

The recoil on AR feels different for someone used to shooting AKs or hunting rifles. But it's also lighter. Just started shooting my AR.
I did feel some discomfort but I think it was purely psychological - an unfamiliar and weird to me "clung-clung" of the buffer.