Saw two forty something ladies at the range the other day. They were next to me and my daughter. I was watching them a bit for two reasons. 1. Safety practices (I always check people near me). They were doing great. 2. Their target(s) were only 2-3 yards downrange. In chatting with them, both were new shooters, had taken a couple classes, and both had purchased new firearms - both Glocks. I say good for them and be safe!!
Are Glocks safe?
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The Michigan State Police, the Midland County Sheriffs, and Midland Police department, all issue Glocks. Since all the LEOs in my jurisdiction carry Glocks, I guess they are safe.
I'm a big Glock fan. I shoot them extremely well, and that is what counts.
I'm a big Glock fan. I shoot them extremely well, and that is what counts.
TexasArmed
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I own a Glock SF 30 45 caliber Glock and when I think I need the extra firepower I carry it. I just wanted to say there are videos on the internet
of Glocks being "Drop Tested". I have not tested them myself, but I am
told that Glocks will not fire unless the trigger is pulled.
I do however own a polyester holster for it that completely covers the
entire Glock and has a flap to open before drawing it. I have not carried it lately instead carrying my Smith & Wesson 357 Magnum six shot revolver.
of Glocks being "Drop Tested". I have not tested them myself, but I am
told that Glocks will not fire unless the trigger is pulled.
I do however own a polyester holster for it that completely covers the
entire Glock and has a flap to open before drawing it. I have not carried it lately instead carrying my Smith & Wesson 357 Magnum six shot revolver.
hyena
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People have been carrying 1911's for over 100 years with external safeties. Seems to have worked so far.
I respect Glocks, have shot a few, don't like the way they fit in my hand. And, full disclosure, I am in the camp that likes an external manual safety on a striker fired gun. I even like it on my hammer fired Bodyguard.
To the OP, if you're still following your post. I would never select my carry gun based on getting a good deal on it. It's a tool you might someday have to use to save your life. Carry the one that best fits your needs, and that you trust. Not the one you got the best deal on. Just my perspective.
Best wishes, and good luck with your decision.
Harrison
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Keep your finger off the trigger and out of the trigger guard until you are actually ready to shoot. That is your biggest safety.
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OP here. My current EDC is a J frame. I've been interested in something that provides more firepower in a small package - in certain situations. Kind of been thinking of a hi-cap 380, then this came along.
I fish at night alone not far from a big city. Have had encounters with shady people. I travel and camp alone off the beaten path. There are times I would like to have more firepower than a J frame offers. I'm leaning towards grabbing this. I feel confident I could use it properly.
There is a YT video floating around about first time buyers returning their Glocks and wanting to trade for something else with a manual safety. Evidently it's very common.
The US military trains a lot of new pistol shooters and they required a manual safety on the M9 replacement for the regular troop. I know some military units use Glocks and the M11-A1 has no manual safety. The M9 has a manual safety.
I wouldn't recommend a Glock to a novice shooter but that's just me.
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VaTom
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Haven't carried a Glock since I retired 8 years ago. Carried a 23 concealed with owb paddle holster that covered trigger.
Only thing I didn't like was having to pull trigger before field stripping (removing slide). For someone who doesn't clear the pistol properly before cleaning this could cause an accidental discharge. I believe the military specs for the new pistol trials required a pistol that could be field stripped without pulling trigger. Do current Glock models still function like that? I don't own one.
Only thing I didn't like was having to pull trigger before field stripping (removing slide). For someone who doesn't clear the pistol properly before cleaning this could cause an accidental discharge. I believe the military specs for the new pistol trials required a pistol that could be field stripped without pulling trigger. Do current Glock models still function like that? I don't own one.
Sir,
Current production Glocks do require that the trigger be pulled to release the striker before the barrel and slide can be removed.
A Glock only needs one point of contact in order to fire.{two part Trigger} A 1911 , with the manual safety off needs two points of contact to fire, with the two different points of contact being on different parts of the gun {grip safety and trigger} So , is the 1911 considered safe to carry with the manual safety snicked off, but loaded chamber? {Two points of contact left necessary to fire}
A SA/DA also has one point of contact needed to fire. It however has a long first shot pull with non- assist, also is a heavier pull. And when de-cocked for carry, it sits at a de-cocked position.
If you compare to a Revolver, cocked into single action. One point of contact {trigger} in order to fire. It however is already all the way back and needs not have the hammer cocked farther , in order to fire. So in DA it is safe to carry {long Trigger pull} But in single action, it is very unsafe to just holster. {it's the same with a SA/DA if not de-cocked after firing} At least the Glock has to do a slight bit of cocking to get to the point of firing, so the Glock is slightly safer than a Revolver cocked and in single action mode .
The DAK or DAO triggers are even safer yet, because at no time is it ever in a single action mode. After each shot fired it has already automatically de-cocked itself.
The Glock ticks all the boxes of things I don't want. {plastic, striker fired, short pull semi-cocked, and that silly one point of contact trigger} It is however light to carry, but that makes it not as user friendly for larger calibers, where a little more weight stabilizes the recoil. {so agency's etc opt for 9 as their caliber of choice which reduces recoil effects over 40 or 357 Sig or 45 ACP} The lighter weight has a cost in mitigation of recoil.
A SA/DA also has one point of contact needed to fire. It however has a long first shot pull with non- assist, also is a heavier pull. And when de-cocked for carry, it sits at a de-cocked position.
If you compare to a Revolver, cocked into single action. One point of contact {trigger} in order to fire. It however is already all the way back and needs not have the hammer cocked farther , in order to fire. So in DA it is safe to carry {long Trigger pull} But in single action, it is very unsafe to just holster. {it's the same with a SA/DA if not de-cocked after firing} At least the Glock has to do a slight bit of cocking to get to the point of firing, so the Glock is slightly safer than a Revolver cocked and in single action mode .
The DAK or DAO triggers are even safer yet, because at no time is it ever in a single action mode. After each shot fired it has already automatically de-cocked itself.
The Glock ticks all the boxes of things I don't want. {plastic, striker fired, short pull semi-cocked, and that silly one point of contact trigger} It is however light to carry, but that makes it not as user friendly for larger calibers, where a little more weight stabilizes the recoil. {so agency's etc opt for 9 as their caliber of choice which reduces recoil effects over 40 or 357 Sig or 45 ACP} The lighter weight has a cost in mitigation of recoil.
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The stock Glock trigger is a bit light for my preferences, so the NY trigger spring was my solution as recommended by Mas Ayoob … Range Report: Glock New York Trigger - Gun Digest
I don’t like manual safeties on any handgun whether it be revolver or autoloader, and they don’t do anything to mitigate unintentional discharges once disengaged. The SCD/striker-control device mainly only applies to re-holstering, but the heavier NY trigger offers an additional measure of safety in all circumstances without negatively affecting my ability to reliably respond quickly, just like it does in a revolver.
I don’t like manual safeties on any handgun whether it be revolver or autoloader, and they don’t do anything to mitigate unintentional discharges once disengaged. The SCD/striker-control device mainly only applies to re-holstering, but the heavier NY trigger offers an additional measure of safety in all circumstances without negatively affecting my ability to reliably respond quickly, just like it does in a revolver.
What an absolutely perfect way to describe Glocks! Thanks for sharing that observation with us!
What an absolutely perfect way to describe Glocks! Thanks for sharing that observation with us!
I think Holiday Inn gives the guy who carries a Glock a discount.
It's already been done with the Cominolli system and I believe a few others. I prefer them without a manual safety as Glock designed them, but there are options out there. I used to use the NY1 trigger springs, but as I grew more comfortable with Glocks, I leave them stock. But then I don't carry a Glock or any other firearm appendix carry, but plenty of people do.
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Glock already engineered a manual safety for their inclusion into the M9 replacement trials.
Unlike HK, who engineered a very nice 45 ACP pistol for the first aborted replacement and made it available to the public (HK45), Glock didn't make their 9mm manual safety (military compliant) available to the civilian market.
Glocks are Glocks and the difference is no manual safety.... ever. It's a marketing thing. Notice that S&W or Sig don't play those games.
If you can put a man on the moon...never mind.
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I bought and sold three Glock pistols before I warmed up to them. I now carry one daily.
You’ll never know until you try. So buy it. In general, Glock pistols don’t depreciate much. If you don’t like and sell it, just think of it as gun you rented for a while.
You’ll never know until you try. So buy it. In general, Glock pistols don’t depreciate much. If you don’t like and sell it, just think of it as gun you rented for a while.
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