Are gun shop serious??

Been a while since I bought a gun from a gun shop/store. People are just asking and getting crazy prices for stuff that is just not worth it in my opinion. I usually prefer to buy/sell/trade within a close circle of friends with similar interests. That way, we don't get screwed, we can afford to enjoy the guns, and they are never too far away to get back if we feel the need.
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Why gun prices have gone through the roof and ammunition is scarce is explained by the same psychology that doubled housing prices in five years. We are witnessing a bubble -- a market that is driven by irrational demand for a product -- that is no different from any other bubble, whether it be a stock market bubble or a housing bubble. Bubbles burst and this one will, too.

I suspect that fear of gun regulation is part of the reason. But, only a part. What fuels bubbles is the irrational sense that if I don't get mine now, I won't ever be able to get it. You see that model 27 you've always wanted, and they're asking $250 more for it than the market price of six weeks ago, but you reach for your wallet all the same because you suddenly think "if I don't get this one I'll never find another."

Bubbles burst when the price of commodities exceeds what buyers are willing to pay. Usually, there will be a period where sellers continue to demand above-market prices even if their products aren't moving because they won't admit that the bubble has burst. Then, sooner or later, the sellers bend and the prices fall.

I'm confident that this will happen in the gun market even as it has happened with other bubbles. First, the fear of gun regulations is truly irrational. There currently is a pro-gun majority in both houses of Congress and, frankly, Obama has bigger fish to fry than to get into a fight over gun control. So, I expect no gun legislation will get through Congress in the foreseeable future. In time, that realization will sink in. Furthermore, demand for guns is no different from demand for other commodities. Inevitably, the prices asked will exceed that which people want to pay.

I've noticed that, on Gunbroker, there are a lot of guns with apparently sky-high reserve prices that are getting no bids. That may be the first sign that sanity will prevail.
 
Which store ?

You may want to give Virginia Arms a look in Manassas, VA they usually have fair prices for a gunstore.
 
Dawsons was high prior to the panic, sufficiently so that I've only been in there a few times and didn't bother to go back. There's a Bass Pro shop if you head south about an our or so. Otherwise your best bet is to find a transfer FFL and just buy what you want from an online retailer, that's what I do. (I'm in Stafford, but use a guy in Warrenton, let me know if you need contact information.)

I wasn't aware of IL SW snubs selling at a scalper's premium currently.
 
Dawson's...hahhahahahahahaahahaha!! They're actually worse than Butt Ridge Arsenal and Dumbass Arms (Dominion Arms). Loudoun Guns...ick...terrible service.

Virginia Arms* and Guns & Ammo Warehouse are the places to go. Virginia Arms is much better because they guarantee everything that goes out their door.

* I am not an employee or investor...just a loyal customer.
 
Originally posted by 230therapy:
Dawson's...hahhahahahahahaahahaha!! They're actually worse than Butt Ridge Arsenal and Dumbass Arms (Dominion Arms). Loudoun Guns...ick...terrible service.

Virginia Arms* and Guns & Ammo Warehouse are the places to go. Virginia Arms is much better because they guarantee everything that goes out their door.

* I am not an employee or investor...just a loyal customer.

Yep. Also, Virginia Arms charges a reasonable fee for a transfer. I've had good experiences with both of the recommended shops. Dawson's? Forget it. When I lived in Lakeridge, I visited Dawson's years ago for fishing tackle, but also checked out the guns. I didn't stay long and left without a purchase. It was obvious to me it was not a serious place for a sportsman. I've yet to hear anyone say a good thing about Dawson's. If you want to see a gathering of gun shop idiots in Virginia, just attend one of the Chantilly shows.
 
Originally posted by stevieboy:
Why gun prices have gone through the roof and ammunition is scarce is explained by the same psychology that doubled housing prices in five years. We are witnessing a bubble -- a market that is driven by irrational demand for a product -- that is no different from any other bubble, whether it be a stock market bubble or a housing bubble. Bubbles burst and this one will, too.

I wonder if Stevie's comparison of guns and houses holds up, and if the `gun bubble' will burst. Seems to me the housing situation involved people buying/investing on credit which only made sense if the houses went up. Most gun buying seems to be cash or at most layaway, and people don't expect to "flip" their guns to pay off their loans to buy them. Anyone know anyone buying guns with credit cards and making the minimum monthly payment until they can sell the guns for a big profit? That's bubble behavior.

Of course, irrational people are panic-buying and hoarding ammo, and the only rational response is -- quickly buy ammo before it's all gone...
 
Originally posted by armadillo:
When I lived in northern VA, I saved my money until I could make a trip to one of the Richmond gun shows with a stop at Green Top on the way home.

Now there are three large volume dealers in the Richmond Area: Bass Pro Shop, Green Top, and Gander Mountain. I noticed last year Green Top was getting a little pricey. I visited Bass Pro Shop during its opening day. It is so huge I never got out of the fishing department so I never got to the gun department. The Gander Mountain is new, but I haven't had a chance to visit. But the Gander Mountain in Fredericksburg isn't all that special.
 
One of the major reasons recent gun purchases have surged is "first time buyers." Once they own one they buy will more.

I purchased my first gun in 2004 (Browning 9mm) and have added 7 more since then (shotguns, rifles and handguns) and awaiting my new S&W M&P15. I would anticipate many of these first timers will do the same thing I have done.

I guess that is why S&W "current" backorders are $123 million versus $22 million 3 months ago!
 
Originally posted by Ops Officer:
But the Gander Mountain in Fredericksburg isn't all that special.

They used to have really good deals there on used guns when I first moved to this area. Then prices became much higher, currently they're just silly at times, like $699 for a used 3rd Gen SW auto...
 
The gun shops are indeed getting outrageous!

With the loons in charge, people are rushing to the store in fear that new gun laws will may be imposed on us law abiding citizens.

It's easier to restrict purchases than it is to take away what we already have.

I was looking at a 442 the other day on sale for $589! The store was packed!
 
Originally posted by armadillo:
When I lived in northern VA, I saved my money until I could make a trip to one of the Richmond gun shows with a stop at Green Top on the way home.

That is exactly what my friends and I did when I lived in Burke, VA. Dawson's has been a local joke ever since old Bob Dawson died or quit the business in the seventies, I think. That's when the store was in Annandale, which, by the way, was the home of H. I. Ribsters, the best darn babyback and beef ribs in the entire world, bar none! I hear they closed a while ago.
 
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