Armed Cyclist Shirt

Status
Not open for further replies.
The fact that one is either packin or not is best viewed much like politicks or religion. Polite folks just don't discuss it...
 
sigp220.45 said:
I'd love to see a single instance in which someone was shot first because of a "shoot me first" vest, shot or attacked because their fanny pack "screamed gun", or was targeted specifically for wearing an Aloha shirt.
Click to expand...

:DI agree 100%+ with that statement. I still use an old fanny-pack when hiking. No one gives it a second look as everyone is carrying some sort of pack.

The cases I have first hand knowledge of all involved people that were out in public, then followed home.

Unfortunately, there was only the newspaper back then, nothing to "link-to".;)
 
32 years. Same levels as you. Your scenario doesn't happen as a rule in every locale I'm acquainted with, which are many. Perhaps your little microcosm is an outlier. I know one fella' who kept a gun in his truck console and got it stole three times because the same miscreant knew he didn't lock his truck. Open carry people don't get tackled on a more regular basis than regular citizens, people with NRA stickers on their trucks don't get broken into more often than others, and people who everybody knows has guns don't get burglarized. Case in point. If your scenario were even close to true, cops would be more frequent victims of burglars, because everybody knows they have at least one gun in the house.

Scorpion520AZ said:
So, who is the "we", in your "we disprove these inane fantasies". My "spout" is based on the reality of thirty years working as an armed professional, and in the criminal justice system, at the municipal, county, state, and federal levels.

I personally investigated several cases where citizens "advertising" they were armed, and/or that they had guns in their homes, became victims of violent assaults and home invasions. They were targeted specifically for their guns. No "fantasies" here.

Please let me know where the "advertise you're an armed citizen" instructor teaches, so I can advise people to seek instruction elsewhere.
Click to expand...
 
Muss Muggins said:
32 years. Same levels as you. Your scenario doesn't happen as a rule in every locale I'm acquainted with, which are many. Perhaps your little microcosm is an outlier. I know one fella' who kept a gun in his truck console and got it stole three times because the same miscreant knew he didn't lock his truck. Open carry people don't get tackled on a more regular basis than regular citizens, people with NRA stickers on their trucks don't get broken into more often than others, and people who everybody knows has guns don't get burglarized. Case in point. If your scenario were even close to true, cops would be more frequent victims of burglars, because everybody knows they have at least one gun in the house.
Click to expand...

I never said it occurs as a rule. Actually, my experience was in three different states in ten different cities. My little microcosms were large urban cities.
How polite of you to imply I'm lying. My scenarios aren't close to being true. They're absolutely true. My personal cases involved people who were out in public, then followed home, and those were just the cases I was assigned to.

Please let me know the names of the professional firearms training schools who teach that advertising you're an armed citizen carrying a concealed firearm in public is a smart idea. I'd enjoy contacting them to hear their thoughts on the subject.
 
Last edited:
Mainsail said:
Are you only just now returning to reality, or is this all a new experience? Reality in this world says anything can happen. There really is 'nothing new under the sun'. Concealed carry peeps are targeted, open carry peeps are targeted, and unarmed peeps are targeted.

Is there any empirical evidence that the criminal element is trolling the streets looking to rob someone of their gun? No. Your mention of career field says a lot- a group traditionally against arming of the citizenry (your own views not relevant).
Click to expand...
Florida did a study using interviews of inmates the majority said they avoid people with guns as potential victims. They also said they feared armed citizens more than police. Of course a person concealing very well looks like they are unarmed.
 
Scorpion520AZ said:
I never said it occurs as a rule. Actually, my experience was in three different states in ten different cities. My little microcosms were large urban cities.
How polite of you to imply I'm lying. My scenarios aren't close to being true. They're absolutely true. My personal cases involved people who were out in public, then followed home, and those were just the cases I was assigned to.

Please let me know the names of the professional firearms training schools who teach that advertising you're an armed citizen carrying a concealed firearm in public is a smart idea. I'd enjoy contacting them to hear their thoughts on the subject.
Click to expand...

Uhhhh their business is mostly conceal carry classes. And I do know one CHP trainer in NC who not only open carries but is an advocate.
 
He better not be eating a pop tart shaped like a gun.

As far as advertise I am carrying.........I choose not to do that.

I knew a woman that worked for a security firm and she was told if she carried a gun they would pay her a dollar an hour more. She said no thanks. Security officer open carrying she thought was first target by a bad perp. For a dollar more she said not only no but heck no.
 
gman51 said:
He better not be eating a pop tart shaped like a gun.

As far as advertise I am carrying.........I choose not to do that.

I knew a woman that worked for a security firm and she was told if she carried a gun they would pay her a dollar an hour more. She said no thanks. Security officer open carrying she thought was first target by a bad perp. For a dollar more she said not only no but heck no.
Click to expand...

I guess that is why some are meter maids, and some people become cops. Unless there is a rash of attacks on armed security where she resides I believe her fear is unfounded. I have seen nothing to support such a claim, IMO it is pure fantasy.
 
One reason for the shirt may be that amongst all other problems Fla. has it has become a bad place to bicycle. Both sides are at fault from distracted, careless drivers to arrogant cyclists not understanding they are subject to the same laws as autos. Majority of folks are like everyone else, just like to get from point A to point B without incident via two wheels or four.
That said if the cyclist thinks that shirt will impress people to steer clear he's taking one helluva chance.
 
robertrwalsh said:
I am not sure that wearing a shirt proclaiming the fact that you are armed is the smartest idea in the world.
Click to expand...

Well, it's not just that, either. The real statement he is making is (and I guarantee this!) "I am a bicyclist that thinks I am a car driver, with full rights to the same amount of road that a car or truck should have, but I'm going 12 miles an hour, you're behind me, and if you even think about crowding or passing me, I may shoot you"...

So, here's news for YOU, angry cyclist; they didn't sell you the last gun, they're still making plenty, I might be going heeled too..."
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Similar threads

C
More Stupid Crook Tricks
2
Replies
20
Views
1K
Doug M.
Doug M.
Faulkner
Tales from the Faulkner Files: You don't remember me . . .
Replies
17
Views
1K
quikdraw67
quikdraw67
S
It's all just stuff...
2 3 4
Replies
70
Views
3K
flash60601
F
chief38
'TIS THE SEASON FOR A ONCE AGAIN POST OF MY LIONEL ELECTRIC TRAIN LAYOUT
2
Replies
27
Views
1K
BillyMagg
B
olfart
Yet Another Tale from the East Texas Outback
Replies
12
Views
614
olfart
olfart

Latest posts

Back
Top