An ASP with 3mags total just sold on Sat. Any Forum member
buy it?
buy it?
ASP sold on RIA
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OP
Lot#1731 hammered at $4750. I have no idea what OTD price is.
OP
Any feedback from ASP owners/collectors?
Cost to buyer: Hammer price of $4750+ 17.5%+ State tax + shipping ($831+$332+50)=$5963 Out the door.
That's just nuts ….. in my opinion
max503
Member
What's an ASP?
Ditto. I'm not afraid to admit I have no idea.
OP
Holy ****! That sure was quick.
From $4750 to $5963! In the blink of an eye.
max503, long story short. A guy in NYC, took your 39-2 and chopped it all up and made a smaller gun. But, did a beautiful job.
From $4750 to $5963! In the blink of an eye.
max503, long story short. A guy in NYC, took your 39-2 and chopped it all up and made a smaller gun. But, did a beautiful job.
LVSteve
Member
Be it an ASP or a Glock 17, the most important thing to know is that friends don't let friends bid on items at RIA. I could name a couple of other places with the same "business" model.
Get a 3913!
Armament Systems and Procedures. The ASP is a custom made handgun designed and built by Paris Theodore from the early 1970s to 1987. The ASP was based on the Smith & Wesson Model 39 or 39-2 pistol employing a shortened slide, a fixed bushing and a unique Guttersnipe sight system ( a narrowing U-channel with fluorescent yellow panels that would form three triangles, all pointed at the target when the sight was properly aligned.), clear Lexan grip-panels, a fully ramped and throated, shortened barrel, and a smoothed and radiused profile to ensure no risk of snagging on the draw. The ASP featured clear Lexan grips allowing the shooter to see how much ammunition is left, a rounded hammer, a hooked trigger guard and no front sight.
Another key way of describing the ASP is that at the time it was offered, the 469/669 and 6904/6906 guns did not exist.
Nobody, and I mean nobody built a small 9mm handgun. Theodore was offering (at first) a gun that nobody else built.
You could argue that he created a whole new class of handgun.
So these are historically significant.
Nobody, and I mean nobody built a small 9mm handgun. Theodore was offering (at first) a gun that nobody else built.
You could argue that he created a whole new class of handgun.
So these are historically significant.
Adventurer104
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kwill1911
Member
One could argue that S&W got (stole?) the idea from the ASP and Trapper and other custom guns that gunsmiths were making out of the Model 39 and 39-2. In fact, Dwayne Charron says as much in his book.
OP
Im looking for some feedback on carrying and shooting the ASP.
If any Forum members shoot, what load did you use? Or are the prices getting to high to just retire to the safe.
If any Forum members shoot, what load did you use? Or are the prices getting to high to just retire to the safe.
kwill1911
Member
Didn't you buy one?
OP
Hello Kevin, Yes I bought one, A144911, with 2mags. Back in the 70s I had a few ASPs pass thru my shop. But I never got to shoot one. And never saw the guys that bought them after they rec. the gun. So, life is to short so at 75 yrs old I bought a nice 1st gen ASP. I dont think anybody that bought one is around anymore. Mike
A modified S&W model 39, originally done by Paris Theodore in NY. It's said he performed about 200 modifications to each one!
They look like this...
OP
Mr. Chad, nice complete gun and accessories as shipped. Paris had his shop located at 315W,39th St. NYC. He later sold the rights to Kevin Parson whose shop was in Appleton, WI. I have no idea how many guns were modified by Paris and Kevin. I guess their log books are long gone.
Not sure if this will help at all, since it's an Austin Behlert, not an ASP but mine does not like my 124gr plated target loads, it will not cycle them, at all, when all of my other 9mm will. It does thrive on 115gr and 124gr +P and is the most accurate pistol I own.
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Just out of curiosity, I google earthed the store address, it's now The Joyce, some sort of posh pub, just south of the Port Authority.
THE PILGRIM
Member
'It's always good to see a big spender.'
When I owned my ASP, I did carry it. Thin profile and rode nicely in its original K. Null strong-side scabbard. Unfortunately, the Guttersnipe was not my cup of tea, so I carried my Devel 39 and 59 far more frequently. I used our duty ammo - Remington 115gr JHP. Our agency then went to 124gr Gold Dot. The ASP and Devel ran fine with those as well. I ended up selling the ASP, and retired the Devels due to value.
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Mr.koz, thanks for info on ammo. I have read the rear sight was either loved or hated. Do you remember what Paris charged you for the conversion. best, Mike
