At lunch today my wife asked for the combination to the gun safe!

People change, some adapt, some don't. The 50% first time divorce rate and 75% second time marriage divorce rate have not climbed, but have stabilized. The only reason being the economy has forced marrieds to re evaluate their situation, strictly a "cheaper to keep her/him" thing. It is no wonder the news is carrying a story currently that 20% of the population would rather spend Valentines Day with a pet. PLEASE SPARE ME STUPID PET REMARKS.
 
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Evil One said:
I find the lack of trust and honesty here to be very sad and troubling.
If you cant/wont trust these people... why would you have them in your life?
My wife has access to everything I own... as I do with hers.

I can now see why the divorce rate is so high.


Jim
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Just simple reality of such a transient society. We no longer know people who knew "mary" her whole life... nor do they usually "know" us... marrying folks we have such short times of knowing leads the PRUDENT to be careful. Trust is wonderful but it is often "EARNED" if ya are smart anyhow...

Reagan said it best "trust but verify"

There are way to many horror stories of guys loosing all their stuff even when they weren't in the wrong to have ANY SANE man no be careful... even with a loved one...

If you want to live with your head in the sand and yer boys hangin out for her to just up and smack at anytime go ahead...

I found my way out with the class three comment above... but she still wasn't happy ;)
 
I keep trying to teach my husband how to open the safe but he simply doesn't want to be bothered. Some of his stuff is in there too. I've told my son where the key is hidden just in case we're killed in a car accident.
 
Evil One said:
I find the lack of trust and honesty here to be very sad and troubling.
If you cant/wont trust these people... why would you have them in your life?
My wife has access to everything I own... as I do with hers.

I can now see why the divorce rate is so high.


Jim
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Exactly. I hope some of the posters are posting "in jest" and not serious. My wife is the most trustworthy person I know. She has the combinations to my safes and a detailed list of what is there.
 
I work on the road, my wife handles all of my "paperwork"... pays all of my bills, has a power of attorney in my name, her name on everything we own... right next to my name.
Like I said... if you cant trust a person you are married to, especially after a few years... then you really dont need to be with them.
I am on my 3rd marriage, and have lost nothing in the divorces.
The only thing I am out is child support for 2 wonderful boys that I am more than happy to pay.
Sounds like a lot of people need to figure out who they are marrying before they marry them.
As to my head being in the sand and my boys just hanging out.
Sounds like I am one of the few who isnt living life like that.
I get a phonecall, text, or email when she purchases something with "our" money... and as she is keeping the books and accounts straight, she gets word from me when I spend.
Do we do this due to lack of trust for each other? Nope.
Its lack of trust in banks and the institutions we have to shop with.
I married a woman who doesnt blow money, who saves more than I ever thought I could on my own... and due to her watching out for me/us, was able to weather 9 months of unemployment without going homeless or missing out on meals... while keeping the house warm and the lights on.
If you dont have that kind of trust in your spouse, you need to keep looking.
Living with distrust and suspicion isnt living.


Jim
 
My wife has my code one of them. Only i have the master code. If at any time I feel uneasy I just delete the secondary code. My son called and needed the title to his car so I had to give him the code or drive 30 miles home to open the safe. I gave him the third spare code and changed it when I got home.

For those using the Key or Day lock feature. I hope you never leave home with the dial locked only. Each safe company has their own key but all Liberty keys are keyed alike. I keep keys for most major safe brands in my safe cracking kit for all the Liberty safe owners look at your key it should be SGR615 Unless it is pretty old I keep that one in my pocket since I deliver a lot of liberty's.
 
This is kind of off topic from the original post...

At the time of my first marrage, all my guns were pre-marital. I barely saw the divorce coming but moved all my guns to a friend's safe, execpt my duty weapon. I kept that at the station. When I moved out, that weapon was entrusted to another officer.

I know of several horror stories of soon-to-be-ex's claiming they were threatened. In those days there were sanctions... today there would be job loss.

I eventually sold half of the guns to raise money... I was bankrupted just before I moved out. (The money ran out & so did she.)

My current wife "knows" the combinations to the safes but would probably need help to get them open. Since she had no interest in the guns & has no knowledge of what was there & what is newer. Some guns have been traded with her knowledge... Really the collection has been pretty static.

BTW, I've twice held guns for others during divorces & conflicts. Have a witness, make a record SN's, all parties date & sign it... same on return. I once had to go to court to testify that I had these guns when HIS ex made a false claim... she should have been prosecuted for perjury, but was not. Basically a PITA, making room for his stuff...

As to the original post... I wonder why she wants to know?!
Russ
 
"Honey, I don't feel comfortable with anyone handling my guns without me being there. If you need to go into the safe (leave out the word "my") I'll be glad to open it for you." Or my favorite..."It ain't none of your damn business what I've got in there!"

You guys that have been married for longer than a quarter century or have a wife who shoots better than you or has more guns than you (think Lynnie and Barb) will have to handle this differently.

Move the gun safe to a different secure location before you get married.
 
Wow. Four pages of comments in 6 hours.

This post was in jest. Thanks for your concern, but some of you guys who really got serious may need to lighten up.

My wife wanted to know because she has stuff in the safe too.

This is the greatest forum. I have learned so much about S&W firearms, and bought one from a forum member. I've laughed at funny stuff and been sad for those who have met misfortune. I've read posts from friends I'll never meet.

Thanks to Handejector and the moderators.
 
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Glad I read all the way to the end. Doesn't make much difference in my response. I believe this would be viewed by the females as a "trust issue". (input welcome) As such, and as noted by others, one could be fairly screwed. The poster who proposed defining the issue as a safety issue is a genius. Further, if she has something inside, perhaps buying the significant other their own storage device which they can have exclusive control over would be a good counter offer.

FWIW, the combo to my safe is remotely held. Everyone else is SOL.
 
On a serious note, someone in the family should be able to access the safe and have knowledge of your firearms.
A business owner in San Antonio died last week, swept away in the car when he crossed a low water crossing. They found the car with him in it, drowned. Fellow drove the same way home for 20 years, no barrier on one side of the low water crossing site, but the other county on opposite side had put one up. Sad situation for sure.
 
plan a middle of the night recon mission and transport any unauthorised refugees to a safe haven till the storm blows over.
 
Here in the People's Republic of Massachusetts, the only people who can have access to your safe are those who have an LTC.

In my case, that includes the wife, but hey... we've been together forty years. If we don't trust each other by now, we're both screwed.
 
Facts are facts. If you read my early post, I reported getting wiped out by my ex wife. When I married my new wife I also gave her the combo. Anybody else would say that is proof positive, and I shouldnt have. I trusted the 1st wife as I do this one. I dont know how to explain that!
Statistics tell us that over half of marrages end up in divorice. I guess not one of us thinks that applys to us when we marry.
The smart thing to do is have a potential wife sign a affidaveit of who owned what prior to marrage, yet none of us do it, or probley think it would squrrile the deal, and it probley would!
My best advice is to take pictures and keep receipts of what you have prior to marrage. Personaly, I doubt I have 1 receipt out of 20!
In my case, I owned EVERY one of those guns that I posted prior to marrage! Yet I lost every one of them and more.
There were reasons for that. First, my ex was far smarter than the average woman. She knew guns and handeled my tables at gun shows, while I would work a lot of ot at the job. After all, I got double time on sundays! The next reason she got away with it was after I somewhat cooled off, I didnt relist them stolen as I couldnt bring myself to have my daughters mother jailed. Really, how many men would?
 
My ex got in the safe and recorded the model #'s and serial #'s. Had a price on them and used them in divorce court. "Bad Word"
Sonny
 
jrd1976 said:
Wow. Four pages of comments in 6 hours.

This post was in jest. Thanks for your concern, but some of you guys who really got serious may need to lighten up.

My wife wanted to know because she has stuff in the safe too.

This is the greatest forum. I have learned so much about S&W firearms, and bought one from a forum member. I've laughed at funny stuff and been sad for those who have met misfortune. I've read posts from friends I'll never meet.

Thanks to Handejector and the moderators.
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Well, that's what happens when you yell movie in a crowded fire house. somebody is going to start the projector.
 
Or how to sing "Stand by your man" while taking him to " D I V O R C E" court by TW. "Maybe Standby your divorce"
 
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I'll jump in, too. Even though this was posted in jest, it has led to an interesting discussion.
No. 39 is coming up this June. Everything we have is marital. When we got married we owned our clothes and a radio. I don't wear 29X29 jeans anymore (married a German/Norwegian girl from Wisconsin) and the radio quit when I couldn't get tubes for it any more (I bought it at Goodwill for $1 and used it for 10 years).
As far as trust, since I'm on the road so much I long ago gave my wife a power of attorney. I told my brother the lawyer (several of those) to draw it up so she could sell me into indentured servitude if she wanted. He did a proper job of that.
Long story short, as important as the subject of firearms is to me, if the house caught fire the last thing I would worry about would be some well machined steel, pretty wood, and utilitarian pieces of rubber.
 
Did she want the combo to all of them, or just one or two? I think I would strike a deal and give her a couple, and keep the rest for yourself. So far I have not had that problem.
 
CAJUNLAWYER said:
When I represent the wife in a divorce one of my standing rules is to get as much money and as many toys as possible as quickly as possible in HER possession. You can always give them back at a later date, but in my experience negotiation is much easier when your side is the "keeper of the goodies". When i represent the Husband, my standing order is to get your stuff out of there ASAP before she can get it. Sorry, but that's the first thing that poped into my mind when I read your post-I hope it isn't the case and there's comething else there-I truly do.
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I won't, and never have, lived my life prepared for divorce. My wife has had power of attorney for the +25 years we have been married. I'll certainly trust her with the contents of our safes.
 
Evil One said:
I find the lack of trust and honesty here to be very sad and troubling.
If you cant/wont trust these people... why would you have them in your life?
My wife has access to everything I own... as I do with hers.

I can now see why the divorce rate is so high.


Jim
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Certainly. If you don't trust her with the safe, DO NOT marry her.
 
jrd1976 said:
Wow. Four pages of comments in 6 hours.

This post was in jest. Thanks for your concern, but some of you guys who really got serious may need to lighten up.

My wife wanted to know because she has stuff in the safe too.

This is the greatest forum. I have learned so much about S&W firearms, and bought one from a forum member. I've laughed at funny stuff and been sad for those who have met misfortune. I've read posts from friends I'll never meet.

Thanks to Handejector and the moderators.
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I never have seen the humor in these posts about hiding things from, or lying to, one's wife.
 
Linda knows every gun I own, has been with me to buy most of them. Knows the combo to the safe but no matter how hard she tries she can't master the right, left, right thing. Give it to her unless you really think she has ill intent. Larry
 
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