Auction find

[chud333]

Local auction today had an estate with some guns, ammo, holsters, cleaning supplies, cases, etc...
They had a flat full of grips and amongst that bunch I saw these early set so I bought them for next to nothing.
Can someone give me the correct term
For these? They are in great shape with
No cracks or chips. Gold medallion. Serial# 272095
Written in pencil inside right grip.
Any help with what these came on
and current value?
Photos coming !!


Thanks, Chuck

 

[chud333]

More photos


Chuck

 

[Grayfox]

What size frame do they fit?
I'm by no means an expert on these old grips. But I had a set for an N-frame in equal condition (just cleaned up good) that I listed for sale on this forum about year or so ago. Asking price was $400 and they sold in about an hour.

 

[Doug627]

I don't know what they belong on but they look very nice. Dare I say, they look down right "minty." Nice find.

 

[chud333]

What size frame do they fit?
I'm by no means an expert on these old grips. But I had a set for an N-frame in equal condition (just cleaned up good) that I listed for sale on this forum about year or so ago. Asking price was $400 and they sold in about an hour.

Thanks Grayfox
They look to be Nframe to my eyes.
What years were these made?
I appreciate the help.

Chuck

 

[vytoland]

Gold medallion. Serial# 272095...for the K frame were issued 1911 - 1920.....serial number about 1917........not sure if the N frames followed the same sequence .....

 

[DeathGrip]

Those look like the ones that came on my 1926 .44 H.E.

Except mine are worn almost smooth. They are numbered to the gun.

 

[Grayfox]

You might ask the mods to move this to the proper revolver forum and re-title it to indicate you need answers about old grips.
I'm sure the right people who know about these will see it and provide a great deal of info.

 

[soFlaNative]

Bummer.... missing screw.... ;-)

 

[chud333]

Bummer.... missing screw.... ;-)

Yes. About that, how hard will it be to find a proper one?


Chuck

 

[Wrangler Rich]

Good buy, even without that pesky screw.

 

[soFlaNative]

Yes. About that, how hard will it be to find a proper one?


Chuck

Yeesh man, I'm here to learn and generally retard the process with unlikely comments.
Until you find the model they're from maybe hit the local mom and pop hardware store. Maybe they'll let you check their stash until you get the pitch and thread count right. You can always figure out the length down the road. That's great looking old set, some of the guesstimates so far are impressive in age.

 

[Alk8944]

Those have to be from a 1910-1920 Military & Police based on the SN, which should be early 1917 +/-.

The K-frame .32-20s had only reached the high 80,000 range during the time this style was used, and likewise, the N-Frames had only reached the 16,000s by 1920. Neither the 455s nor the 1917s came close to 272,000. Thus, a .38 M&P is the only model they can be from!

**"Until you find the model they're from maybe hit the local mom and pop hardware store." Absolutely not! The screw you need is a Nickel-plated steel, fillister head, 5x44 that is ca. 7/8 long. While the thread is an SAE NEF, the other details simply are not going to be found together.

Some will claim the thread was changed during WW II, but this strictly is not so. As I recall the specification was changed from .123" to .122" diameter. a whopping .001"! These are both within the tolerances for a 5x44 which is nominally 1/8", but as with most threads is commonly a few thousandths smaller than nominal! It is not a "proprietary" thread as many believe, but the overall specifications for the "screw" are definitely proprietary, or at least, highly specialized to the application.

 

[DeathGrip]

Yes. About that, how hard will it be to find a proper one?


Chuck

Grips with screws when you can find them is easier. Screws with out grips? That's tougher. It takes a much better eye.

I'm sure that after my dad passed things got thrown away that were valuable to someone that knew but he had more stuff than he needed. It was overwhelming.

Learn something from this if you care about your loved ones. Heck, If you care about your stuff.

Sorry for the drift.