B-2 Bombers to Korea
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CAJUNLAWYER
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I think we ought to send in the SEAL's on a capture mission, bring the fat little ****er back and send him on a canoe trip down that river in Georgia that Ned Beaty went on with Burt Reynolds 
Let some of those boys get medival on him like they did with Marcellus. 
Let some of those boys get medival on him like they did with Marcellus. feralmerril
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Yeah but he would like it.
The most visible thing I can tell for certain about the North Korean
leader is the fact that:
He needs a better barber.
leader is the fact that:
He needs a better barber.
Jst1mr
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....and a tailor.
QuickDrawMcGraw
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I say Bomb' the hell out of the little runt's palace or
what ever it's called' when we know he's there.
And of coarse all known nuclear arms & missile installations.
.. Now! ... don't wait till later.
Loss of innocent lives' Yes, too bad!
... There' .. I said it for you Hillbilly*
~ Joe
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Steve in Vermont
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The NK leader is just establishing his "creds" for his military and people. This guy needs to stoke fear of an invasion to maintain power. Our bombers did this for 2 reasons, as a warning and to test the systems. You can bet satellites and ground based assets were monitoring the NK radars to ascertain their capabilities in detecting our planes. The NK leader is no fool, he knows he can inflict severe damage on SK. But he also knows what would follow...the end of him and his military. And it will be a very violent, brutal end.
Nothing worse than a head of state with a bad hair cut, or ill fitting suit. There is no excuse for anyone to have a bad hair cut or be in need of a Manicure.
OP
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Texas Star,
Classic "Saber Rattling" at its best! I'm glad, and a bit surprised, that someone in the US Military still understands its usefulness when dealing with "tinhorn" countries.
(Had a little trouble initially in understanding just who you were referring to with the "Narcissistic Dictator" comment but I think I figured it out)
Bob
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Yes, I meant their N.D., not our would-be N.D.
BTW, is Samsung a South Korean company? One of the morning news shows had a feature on how they're competing with Apple to be the biggest maker of advanced cell phones or some such electronic technology.
They had some Englishman tour the Samsung plant and gave them what amounted to a huge commercial whlie admitting that Samsung probably steals Apple technology.
I know that SK sells a lot of cars here. But I don't want a car called KIA. It also means, Killed in Action. That's as bad as FORD: Found On Road Dead.
BTW, you mentioned "saber rattling." Did you see the Patton saber in that collectors' gun shop we visited near the restaurant where I found the orange-filled Lindt & Sprungli chocolate? I guess we could give them a free commercial here, but I wasn't sure if you wanted your city location known on the board.
Patton basically copied that saber from the Pattern 1908 Britsh one, Officers Model being the M-1912. When I hold one of those things, I think that in its day, it reached out quite a ways from horseback. Now, we have planes that reach out uncounted thousands of miles to deliver the messier aspects of national policy.
Young Lt. Winston Churchil once mentioned fighting in what is now Pakistan while dismounted. He had his revolver (Wilkinson-Webley 1892 model) in one hand and saber in the other, mentioning his long cavalry sword.
I've held both the 1897 Pattern Infantry Officers sword and the longer cavalry sword, and the added length of the latter made it awkward on foot. But the Infantry Officers sword was very well balanced and of good length. I just wish that sending a few troops of cavalry to patrol the border would inimidate young Kim today.
Those swords were probably the ulitmate of their kind, but adopted shortly before WW I made combat use of the sword useless. (Okay, Commando leader Maj. Jack Campbell used his basket-hilted sword on a few raids about 1940-1941, but that was an exception.) I wonder if the B-2 will soon become obsolete in the face of even more advanced technology, and where that will lead.
We could use really vicious weapons. We could beam programs with Rosie O'Donnell and similar individuals to any TV sets in North Korea that can receive any but their govt. broadcasts. Or, would that be considered a crime against humanity?
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The boy leader knows that if he starts something, we have the capability of turning Pyongyang into a glass parking lot. He's just rattling his saber to impress his own people.
On the other hand, he's demonstrably insane. Who can predict?
John
On the other hand, he's demonstrably insane. Who can predict?
John
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If history is an indicator...
NK makes noise... US gives them food, fuel oil and other stuff... even a light-water nuclear reactor, in return for promises that everyone knows will never be kept.
If it were me... I'd send the young man a bottle of Sunscreen marked SPF 1,000,000 and some dark sunglasses with a note to knock it off or he may soon need these items.
NK makes noise... US gives them food, fuel oil and other stuff... even a light-water nuclear reactor, in return for promises that everyone knows will never be kept.
If it were me... I'd send the young man a bottle of Sunscreen marked SPF 1,000,000 and some dark sunglasses with a note to knock it off or he may soon need these items.
OP
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We talk of Kim as a "boy leader" at 28. How old was Octavius when he became Caesar Augustus? Alexander died at 33, having conquered most of the known world in his time.
B2s... I don't understand why we have them in the first place. There has to be more efficient ways to deliver ordnance than those crazy things. Were they just another case of a weapon program that was obsolete by the time they got to producing them and it never got shut down, or what?
It's strategically best to have alternate means of nuclear delivery. The advantage of the B-2 is that it can be recalled. Once a land or sea-based missile is launched, the time window to admit a mistake and cancel the bomb is very small, probably only minutes in which we could issue a self-destruct signal. An enemy, knowing that B-2s are on the way, also knows that he has an opportunity to throw in the towel and back down to escape total destruction. A missile launch pretty much cancels any possibility of further negotiation. It's essentially all over once the button is pushed. It's always good to keep the options open until absolutely necessary to proceed.
John
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John-
That is what scares me. He is not only narcisstic, but quite possibly really loco. He's like a child with an inflated ego and a desire to make himself famous and powerful. If he finds a loaded gun, what might he do? He may even be a sociopath. He clearly cares nothing for his own people, and hates us.
The Iranian president may also be a few fish short of a full stringer. And Iran wants nuclear devices...
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Kim is neither Caesar Augustus nor Alexander; he has not earned his commander-in-chief status. His first mistake will also probably be his last one. His opportunity to go down in history will probably just be the opportunity to go down. Poof.
John
Comrad
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I think it's time for a teaching moment in that part of the world Hiroshima style. Let them chew on that for a half a century.
gregintenn
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Exactly what I was just pondering. Japan wanted "attention" several years back, and we accomodated them. I don't take threats well.
Smitty357
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It's another one of those Obummmer stunts to make the cost of ammo stay up. As long as this country feels we are going to war or are at war, then the ammo craze will continue.
If N. Korea feels froggy, then I say we let the jump. In the end, you can bet we will screw up their landing.
If N. Korea feels froggy, then I say we let the jump. In the end, you can bet we will screw up their landing.
Could send in D. Rodman to re-establish.
Coldshooter
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If I had to fly from MO to Korea and back sitting in one place it would take a very good team of physical therapists to even straighten me back out.
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