Bad Day for Delta at ATL

[Retired W4]

The NTSB will have fun with this one. I want to hear the recording of Ground Control and the A-350 and CRJ-900. Oh, and the cockpit voice recorder too. Everyone gets to line up to pee in the bottle. Thank God no one was injured. There was a LOT of jet fuel in the wing of the Tokyo bound ScareBus.

Delta planes collide on taxiways at Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta airport; NTSB investigating | FOX 5 Atlanta

 

[TJm15.38]

One of the first things I was told way back in USAF Pilot Training is that there is no excuse for a taxi accident. That CRJ is trashed. They might as well take the engines and the avionics and junk it.

 

[ladder13]

Someone somewhere was under the influence.

 

[squirrelnest]

Pilots where on their cells phones!

 

[NYlakesider]

Someone somewhere was under the influence.

Or playing a game of Tic Tac Toe instead of the serious Due Diligence expected/demanded of taxi work.

 

[margethatcher]

My daughters flying to Chile today with Delta. Wish my Pope wasn't a communist, I might be tempted to pray.

 

[SMSgt]

One of the first things I was told way back in USAF Pilot Traing is that there is no excuse for a taxi accident. That CRJ is trashed. They might as well take the engines and the avionics and junk it.

Most likely not. Almost all large jets have hinges in the vertical stabs so they can be folded. It probably snapped either the pins or the hinge. The question will be whether the insurance wants to repair or total it. It is fixable.

 

[WR Moore]

The photos seem to show that the entire tail assembly was sheared off (seems to still be marginally attached) the plane. The horizontal stabilizers are vertical and the vertical stabilizer/rudder is horizontal.

Used to fly a Delta feeder in & out of Dothan, AL. We referred to it as Crop Duster Airlines.

 

[muddocktor]

Yeah, just watched a clip on this on the CBS website. You can be sure there will be some peeing in the bottle for the A-350 flight crew for sure and probably the CRJ crew too. And yes, the video I just watched clearly shows the tail section was sheared off of the fuselage. I kind of doubt that will buff right out.

 

[Retired W4]

The photos seem to show that the entire tail assembly was sheared off (seems to still be marginally attached) the plane. The horizontal stabilizers are vertical and the vertical stabilizer/rudder is horizontal.

Used to fly a Delta feeder in & out of Dothan, AL. We referred to it as Crop Duster Airlines.

Got a ride from Basic Training (LA) to Flight School (TX) on Trans-Texas Airlines, AKA Tree Top Airlines. It was an old Dc-3. One of the passengers pointed out to the stewardess all the oil coming out of the #2 engine. She told him not to worry, they had plenty of oil on board. And yes, they were not called flight attendants back then.

 

[Buford57]

Got a ride from Basic Training (LA) to Flight School (TX) on Trans-Texas Airlines, AKA Tree Top Airlines. It was an old Dc-3. One of the passengers pointed out to the stewardess all the oil coming out of the #2 engine. She told him not to worry, they had plenty of oil on board. And yes, they were not called flight attendants back then.

I had the same experience over Lake Michigan and got pretty much the same response. The only consolation was that in January I wouldn't have suffered long before hypothermia set in.

 

[WR Moore]

I recall hearing about some military jet that if it wasn't leaking, that meant it was out of oil. Think it was a hydraulic issue?

The stewardess on one CDA flight was a hoot. We were in a Fokker that seated 26 (?) and she said it was the queen of the fleet. In general, the pilots seemed to have a fear of heights.

 

[Marine Corps Air]

I am waiting for the CVR for that Alaska Airlines jet when the tower or ATC radioed "Cancel takeoff clearance"! At around 120 knots the aircraft must have been close to rotation speed. He was below V1, but the cockpit crew deserves a lot of credit for stopping the aircraft safely, albeit they had blown tires.

I think that there was a Southwest aircraft crossing the active runway ahead of them on the taxiway.

Bill

 

[llowry61]

That isn't good.

Ground controllers and flight crews will have some splaining to do.

I went to the ATC academy back in 1990 ultimately decided that going to Chicago Tracon wasn't for me. Separated from the FAA went back home and got in Financial Services world.

ATC stress factor was through the roof back then and traffic has grown significantly. While well paid the stats of alcoholism, divorce rates, suicide etc. made me decide against it.

I made the right choice.

 

[Rudi]

Amazing there aren't more of these. So glad my flying days are over.

 

[CH4]

Looks like the CRJ stopped too short and left its tail protruding into the path of the A350’s (which was on the centerline)blind spot. Guessing the investigation will be pretty straight forward.

 

[Marine Corps Air]

I agree with CH4. You can see that the CRJ aircraft was not stopped forward enough in the "Hold Short" position on the taxiway (civilian vehicles are parked there in this picture).

My opinion-I would have thought that the co-pilot of the larger jet would have seen this situation during their taxi and called ground control to have the smaller CRJ aircraft pull forward before the larger Delta jet taxied forward.

Bill