Banned in NY state

[Boox]

here's alink to all the illegal guns NOW;

New York State SAFE Act

 

[CAJUNLAWYER]

Don't tell anyone-but they forgot the Mini 14 and the Mini 30

 

[OFT II]

I feel bad because I don't own anything that's on their hit list.

 

[Comrad]

Don't forget the word variant means any rifle they don't like.

Any AR-15 variant designed to fire ammunition in any caliber manufactured by the firms listed below:

That certainly screams Mini 14 and Mini 30 to me.

Poor little old Remington 1100, doesn't that one come with two stocks one with pistol grip and one without.

 

[retarmyaviator]

Surprising that they missed M1As.

 

[retarmyaviator]

Don't forget the word variant means any rifle they don't like.

Any AR-15 variant designed to fire ammunition in any caliber manufactured by the firms listed below:

That certainly screams Mini 14 and Mini 30 to me.

Poor little old Remington 1100, doesn't that one come with two stocks one with pistol grip and one without.

Mini 14 and 30 are not variants of AR15s.

 

[labworm]

Don't tell anyone-but they forgot the Mini 14 and the Mini 30

I see Sturm Ruger listed but not the models.

Those could be behind door #3.

 

[Wyo]

They haven't included the M1 Garand, the M1 Carbine, the M1A or the MSAR Stg, (an AUG clone). I don't see the SIG 556 either. I've seen lots of guys who were proficient with the M1Garand work them just about as fast as any regular person with an "assault rifle" and with a much more powerful and effective cartridge. I know I sure wouldn't want to take any of them on in a fight!

 

[V-35]

Did you see the Very laughable State Police "Motto" on the attchment.

Also, I think that it should now read "Police State" instead of State Police.



Art

 

[jlrhiner]

I should point out, that I am banned from New York also.

 

[Comrad]

Mini 14 and 30 are not variants of AR15s.

You know that and I know that but Judge Judy is going to rule it a variant and away you go.

 

[wbraswell]

I bet they think that a Mini 14 is the same as an AR. I am suprised the M-1 Carbine isn't on their list. I'm sure this will be amended shortly.

I just noticed the name Sharps on there. That's not a name I usually associate with paramilitary semi-autos.

 

[Iggy]

They haven't included the M1 Garand, the M1 Carbine, the M1A or the MSAR Stg, (an AUG clone). I don't see the SIG 556 either. I've seen lots of guys who were proficient with the M1Garand work them just about as fast as any regular person with an "assault rifle" and with a much more powerful and effective cartridge. I know I sure wouldn't want to take any of them on in a fight!

Watch it WYO, Agent Smuckatelli may be reading the forums and catch on..

 

[GKC]

I should point out, that I am banned from New York also.

Why...are you high capacity?

 

[2152hq]

Poor little old Remington 1100, doesn't that one come with two stocks one with pistol grip and one without.

Most any semi auto shotguns could be.

Under the ammended law (this 'new' law is actually an ammendment to the 1994 NYS A/W/B)

An Assault Shotgun is:
Any semiautomatic shotgun that has ONE of the following characteristics:

>a folding or telescoping stock

>a thumb hole stock

>a second handgrip or protruding grip that can be held by the non-trigger hand.

>a fixed magazine capacity in excess of 7 rounds.

>an ability to accept a detachable magazine.
***********************************************

As you can easily see, it will place most any semi auto shotgun with a folding stock, and an extended tube mag into the A/W catagory.
Even using a thumbhole stock will. I know several Trap shooters that use that style and have for 30yrs or more.

The old AW ban in NYS required any semiauto with a detachable magazine to have two of the features to place it into the A/W catagory. This new law ,,it takes only one feature.
There are features listed for rifles,,shotguns and pistols. The only common starting ground is that the firearm be a semi auto w/a detachable magazine. The detachable mag is common to all three kinds of firearms.
Add one more of the features and it's an A/W.

None can have more that 7rds in their magazine from now forward.
Mags sold from now on must be 7rd cap.
The 10rd mags mandated since 94 in the original NYS AWB are still legal to keep,,you're on the honor system (really!) to only load w/ 7rds.

Class 'A' Misdemeanor if caught w/ more than 7rds in a 10rd'r now out side of your residence.
If I read the law right, it's a $400 fine for first offense to have the same condition inside your residence.

So I guess you'll not be charged for protecting yourself w/a full 10rd mag inside your home,,just fined for doing so.
Just don't use it on the street to prevent yourself from being a victim.
Obviously the bad guy will do the same.
It's the law after all.

 

[keith44spl]

I guess I'm jest SOL....Don't got nothing on the (hot sheet) NY List.



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I guess bein' old and cranky don't count fur nothin' anymore.

If all them NY folks would have gotten the Como-flu and lay'd outta work for a week or so, a week or so ago....I'm jest sayin


Su Amigo,
Dave

 

[2152hq]

Also in the new law there is exemption for any rifle, shotgun or pistol as listed on 'Appendix 'A' of the USC (US Code) 922.
The NY Law specifys the firearm must be in the configuration as manufactured when the original AWB was implemented in NYS in 1994.

Here's link to a list of so called Appendix A firearms.
Crime Bill: Appendix A

It's not a link that the NY law provides or even hints at. It only specifys the exemption for them in a one liner deep in the new law.
it's going to take some time to dig thru this thing just like most laws passed overnight.

You will find the Ruger Mini 30 in there. The Min1 14 w/o a folding stock is there.
The BAR, and Marlin Camp Guns are listed.

Missing from the index are any Military Surplus arms.

The commercial IJ M1 carbine makes the list though. But the empty suits have a long year to modify their overnite creation to elliminate it.

They did add wording to the effect that just because a weapon does not appear in the Appendix A list, is not to be taken that it is an A/W under the NYS Law.
I guess they can go either way with that one.

 

[sw44spl]

I didnt see glock or smith&wesson on the pistol list

 

[venomballistics]

I didnt see glock or smith&wesson on the pistol list

don't really have to list them ... mag ban renders those obsolete.

 

[Gunslinger808]

To all those that never wanted an "Assault rifle" and therefore didn't care about a ban (oh, they'll never come for mine):
They just did!
This is why we need to stand together or fall apart.