BANNED Topics- Fair Warning

[handejector]

June 7, 2022 Addendum:
After 2+ years of dealing with Covid, the economic woes and gas prices, topped by the recent mass shootings and looming "sensible" gun legislation, many of you just can't contain your frustrations and slide readily into discussion of banned topics, notably politics.
The Staff and I are subject to the same problems you are. We get it.
BUT, we still aren't going to discuss the banned topics. The extra workload this is creating for the moderators means we won't be cutting any slack.

the original post:
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Take Heed-
PARTICIPATING in a thread (or discussion within in an allowed thread) on a banned topic will receive a Reminder or a Point just as if you started the thread.

READ:
Sticky: RULES - General Posting Rules
They tell you:
Politics is a banned topic on this board.
It's a simple rule- We don't talk general politics here.

This policy is NON-negotiable, so you can save any contrary comment.
If that makes this board untenable for you, we bid you Godspeed in your quest for happier haunts.

I'm assuming you folks own real guns. That would seem to imply that you have enough self control to limit your actions.

from The Rules:

The following topics are BANNED on this Board:
Abortion
Religion
Racial issues
Gay rights/homosexuality
General LEO bashing
Political Discussion and Comment
Do NOT participate in discussion of banned topics.

2nd Amendment issues and causes can be discussed in the 2nd Amendment forum.

2nd Amendment Issues means:
Just that- issues relating to gun rights.

It does NOT mean we'll discuss general partisan politics, the economic policies of either party, abortion, gay rights, religion, nor elections beyond sorting pro-gun candidates from anti-gun candidates in the 2A forum.

This is explained further here: Sticky: READ this > HOW to use the 2A Forum

 

[rockyrider]

I've been roundly spanked for this mistake before. Learned my lesson. It's too bad IMHO, because Politics affect us all, and it needs to be discussed.

 

[handejector]

I've been roundly spanked for this mistake before. Learned my lesson. It's too bad IMHO, because Politics affect us all, and it needs to be discussed.

So does the weather, cholesterol, and heart disease, but I don't see any change from people talking about them.

You're relatively new here, so you may not know we once allowed political discussion.
It did not have any effect on the state of the union.
It did put a lot of wear and tear on the staff and the membership. Handling the firefights took way too much staff time.

Hence, our current ban on the subject.

I thought I covered this in the first post-

This policy is NON-negotiable, so you can save any contrary comment.
If that makes this board untenable for you, we bid you Godspeed in your quest for happier haunts.

 

[Doug M.]

For those who don't get it: at a prior place of employment, some of our meetings deteriorated into discussions of some of the same topics. A lot of heat, no light, and a great way to have everyone leave for the weekend in a horrid mood. I hate meetings generally, but those issues made it worse. Lee is on the right path. Even some topics that aren't banned can be a real boil on the backside.

 

[JonF]

I started with computers in 1986.
It has taken me this long to find
a common sense forum that truly
supplies good information and a
balance of adult values.

 

[walkin jack]

I'm fairly new around here too but like the Ringo Kid I've been on other sites where these discussions were allowed and let me tell you, it doesn't take long for a small difference of opinion to escalate into heated insults, name calling and even threats of violence. It's embarrassing to read and in all that I don't believe ever saw anyone change their mind on any topic of controversy.

We have it good here thanks to the efforts of the powers that be to keep things on and even keel. I'm not perfect and I know I've slipped once or twice but I DO get it and I try to be a good boy. It's the right thing to do.

Thanks again to Lee and staff for all you do.

 

[Old cop]

The reason I like this forum is b/c of these rules. There are some other forums out there where anything goes and a lot of it is pretty awful. I left all of them and don't mind these rules, even when I'm reminded that I've skirted a bit too close to bending some from time to time.

 

[DaGOOSExyz]

No problem here on the rules. Most of these topics people are pretty
set in their thinking and your not going to change them. Rather keep
it friendly anyway.

 

[model70hunter]

Like Hapworth, oldcop, Ringo and Walkin Jack I have been on forums where dysfunction was the rule. They were pretty bad, it was like walking into a bar fight when I was a LEO, OK, which one am I gonna cuff first? But you can't I turned and walked out of those forums. Believe me finding kindred souls is a great thing.

I do appreciate the order and clean house here.

Lee, I spoke with My HR person, gender bashing probably should be run up the flag pole too. Liabilites you know.

 

[walkin jack]

I think that my entire attitude is different on this site than any other I've ever been on. Some of the other sites have rules in an effort to maintain civility and have a family friendly site but the difference is they don't enforce it. Either they don't know how or don't have the stomach for it.

In any case the result for me is I STILL have to suffer all the obnoxious trouble makers and it makes ME want to explain things in very clear terms. Get it together or get out. In my first 5 years I would occasionally let myself be drawn into a board war and always ALWAYS regretted it later. I haven't done that in over 12 years though.

But what I want to add here is that on this site I WANT to abide by the rules because of my respect for the leadership and the membership. I mean I'm not even tempted to get out of line because I don't want to be a negative influence in here. I'd sooner walk into Miss Pam's kitchen with muddy work boots on. And for the same reason: I live here and I want to do my part to keep the place clean.

As you were....

 

[handejector]

I actually thought free speech was a right given by the constitution..

Actually not.
Freedom of Speech is not given by the Constitution, it is guaranteed in the Constitution. The premise is that Freedom of Speech is a God-given right, or, for the Godless, it is presumed to be a natural right of man.

Some good reading on Freedom of Speech:
A Note on Freedom of Speech

and also here-
Sticky: Terms of Service
a tad more than halfway down, you will see FREEDOM of SPEECH

 

[Old 44 Guy]

I know I've stepped out of line a time or two here on the Forum. Got my typing fingers swatted too. But all in all, there isn't a better place to meet my friends & learn something also.At my age,83, there isn't a much better place to give & take ideas, experiences,hunting trips,good guns & bad guns, good deals & bad deals. Just lay off the sex, politics, etc. & all will be well. Hell, if I can do it anybody can. By the way, slip a few bucks to the boss.I do every once in a while.

 

[ibewbull]

This is a stress free place to relax.
Politics is too stressful as well as the rest of the issues which should be avoided.
Now back to looking for a 27-2 or older.

 

[handejector]

Ok I am confused. Can we discuss our gun rights and point out who is against them and who supports them?

Short answer- Yes.



Long Answer / How to do it-

2nd Amendment issues and causes can be discussed in the 2nd Amendment forum.

2nd Amendment Issues means:
Just that- issues relating to gun rights.

It does NOT mean we'll discuss general partisan politics, the economic policies of either party, abortion, gay rights, religion, nor elections beyond sorting pro-gun candidates from anti-gun candidates.

This is explained further here: Sticky: READ this > HOW to use the 2A Forum

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[Checkman]

I used to belong to a forum where there was always blood in the water. Finally walked away. I like this place. I'm a moderator on the imfdb forum and I've banned more than a few folks who were obviously trying to cause problems. As a result the forum is civil and low key. That's how it should be in my opinion. Good work.

 

[LVSteve]

OK, I'm going to say it to all that mutter and mumble about Lee and his policies. Go and take a look at the General Discussion forum (AKA GD) on ar15.com (AKA Arfcom). Find any thread with that can set folk up as adversaries, (Glock vs the World, Chevy vs Ford) and see how nasty they get. If you have a strong stomach, move on up and find yourself a thread on politics or religion.

Oh, and keep a barf bucket next to your computer chair.

...and the punchline.....

GD on AR15.com does not come even CLOSE to some of the worst I have seen on the Web. Lee keeps a tidy house, and it works.

I suspect most, if not all, of us here don't rant on about certain things in bars because we know it will likely start a fight. It's the same on the Web, and Lee has said that it won't happen in his house. End. Of. Story.

 

[handejector]

This applies all day, EVERY day, no matter what is in the news.....

 

[s&wchad]

Avoid disappointment and future regret!

The following topics are BANNED on this Board:
Abortion
Religion
Racial issues
Gay rights/homosexuality
General LEO bashing
Political Discussion and Comment
Do NOT participate in discussion of banned topics.

2nd Amendment issues and causes can be discussed in the 2nd Amendment forum.

 

[s&wchad]

The staff is available on weekends too!

This makes a good read: A Note on Freedom of Speech

 

[pawncop]

Very proud to be a member of this forum. I want to keep learning about S&W firearms and a few others.

Find yourself a political forum if you need to scratch that itch but remember arguing with our friends on the other side of the spectrum is like wrestling with a pig in mud. Your both filthy, but the pig enjoyed it.