Berry's Bullets - Report Your Recent Experience

Loaded my first Berry's bullets (158grRN .38spl) and I was pleased. What I was most pleased with was Jay's willingness to talk to me personally and answer questions I had concerning what load to use. Personal attention from a manufacture these days is a rarity and not having to push 1,2,3,4 means a lot to me. I will be giving these people more business in the future.
 
Simply put, using reloaded ammo for self defense opens you up for major legal problems! Always use commercial ammo!
 
I found Barrys bullets at Cabelas, I bought them because they were cheap and fell in love with them. I shoot mostly 9mm and have not had any issues with them.

SWCA 892
 
Just tried Berry's plated bullets in my 16-4 4" extremely accurate Used their hollow base wad cutter over 3. grains of 231 with a Winchester primer.

Have had good results with their plated wad cutters in my 52-2
 
I recently tried out some Berry's 9mm 124gr HBFP and on that same day I also tried out some 124gr jacketed HP's that were pretty spendy by comparision. I fired 150 rounds of each firing 5 shot groups and then finished off the afternoon by firing 5 consecutive 10 shot groups with each. I have to say that in comparing those last 10 targets you cannot tell any difference in the accuracy between the two. The jacketed HP's are probably a better choice for self defense rounds but, for range practice the Berry's are as accurate as anything else I've tried. By the way, the HBFP's seemed to produce better groups than the standard Berry's FP bullets. At least in my pistol. On this particular day I was firing my Beretta 92fs but the Berry's have produced some impressive groups in my M&P also. I should have mentioned that all testing between the two was done at 50ft.
 
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I was under the impression that Masoob Ayood recommended against using reloads as it was something a prosecuting attorney could try and use against you. I have no idea if this issue was has ever been brought up at a trial?

I personally have more faith in my reloads than any factory load and rarely used a factory round in my 30 plus years of hunting dangerous game.
 
I've used more than 5k of the 158 RN Berry's loaded to 38+P levels for IDPA and ICORE competition and plan on sticking with them for the foreseeable future. They are consistent and plenty accurate for these games. A big plus over lead is that there is no smoke - which causes big problems for low light/flashlight type stages (such as the S&W Indoor Winter championships). There is more friction than with lead, so it takes more powder to get equivalent velocity. I would not recommend them for light loads, but they work great at 750 to 800 fps range in 38 spl. The round nose profile makes for smooth revolver reloads using either speedloaders or moonclips, no edges to hang up on the chamber mouth.
 
Just ordered another 1K .38spl Berry's. Haven't even shot all I got on the first order but I like them so far. Hey, they're pretty and shiny too.
 
If you think a HBWC won't kill something then just double tap everything. I don't want to be shot with a BB - because in the right spot it can kill. Best thing in a car to carry is a CO2 BB gun - no permit required. Two or three rounds in the face will hurt them.
 
And away we goooooo!! Again and again, Will it ever end???
Not likely.

IANAL nor do I play one TV.

The common argument is that the DA will portray the defendant as a crazed killer who manufactured his own extra deadly ammunition. That really is a **** argument. No DA worth half his salary is going to make an argument that can be shot down so easily. It makes him look stupid to the jury.

The alternate argument is that forensic evidence such as gunshot residue may be important in a self defense shooting. This has some legs. In the Zimmerman case, for example, one of the defense claims is that Martin was on top of him of Zimmerman and was striking him when Zimmerman fired. In that case, gunshot residue will be important in establishing just how far away the gun was when the shots were fired. To do this the lab will use ammo of the same type and, if possible, lot number as was used in the shooting. With commercial ammo this is pretty easy to do. With reloads it is much more difficult because the rules of evidence in most states frown on a defendant manufacturing his own evidence.

Also consider that, even if you are exonerated by the jury, all the evidence painstakingly gather by the authorities will be available to the plaintiff's attorney in a possible civil case.

Each person has to make his own decision as to what ammunition to keep in his SD guns. Some people will carry reloads and trust the system to work it out correctly. That may be a good bet. I am the primary economic support for my family and have decided that the extra cost of a box of Gold Dots is cheap compared to the added risk.

OTOH, I shoot revolvers where a box of 25 or 50 is enough to test reliability. I've read that the bottom feeder guys shoot at least 250 and sometimes over 500 rounds for that purpose. At a buck a pop that can add up fast.

Now can we go back to reloading?
 
Same thing but different. I bought some of the jacketed .224" bullets for plinking ammo for a hungry AR. They have of course been nothing but good to me and evil for the targets.
 
Nothing special about Berry's bullets. Work good, but have better luck with Ranier bullets.

Out of curiousity, what .357 Rainier bullet / powder combination gives you the best results? I'm considering trying Rainiers for my 4" 686.

Thanks in advance!
 
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