Best Zombie Gun Ever?

I've have a mostly-full box of John Wayne collector's .45LC, from once upon a time when that was the only box of .45 LC for sale in a store, and I had a new SAA to shoot. Each round even has "Duke" stamped on the base of the cartridge, opposite .45LC. I reeeeeeally like the idea of having a box or two of 'WWZ' 9mm or 5.56! hmmm collectable ammo, kinda like collectable firearms.... not a bad idea

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(Edit) The price-tagger clerk must have been in a bad mood that day eh?
 
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Sure suppressed would be good but I'm thinking I'd have to make sure I'm mighty close to get that .22 to enter the noggin and rattle around a little to scramble me some zombie brains. Now take that .22 and add a 3 at the end and I'd feel a whole lot better!
 
Pretty much, i love this little .22..... but i'm grabbing big brother for the zombies.
 
How's this?:D
 

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i think i would use all the wepons i have at my disposal;
.40 px4 storm
p95 ruger
sig mosquito
sp101
8mm mauser
12g winchester pump
escort 12 g pump
15-22
10-22
model 60 marlin
20 g h&r single shot
and super old school t-barker 12g.......after that machte time!
 
i think i would use all the wepons i have at my disposal;
.40 px4 storm
p95 ruger
sig mosquito
sp101
8mm mauser
12g winchester pump
escort 12 g pump
15-22
10-22
model 60 marlin
20 g h&r single shot
and super old school t-barker 12g.......after that machte time!

Uh-Huh, go ahead and don all that gear and post the pic!...don't forget you need ammo for all those blasters also!
 
Depends on what zombie movie. Romero's original "Night of the Living Dead" centered around a Marlin/Glenfield model 60 tube fed 22. But, those zombies could barely even walk.

Huh? It was an old lever action Winchester, in 44/40 if I remember right. In some cuts of the film you can see the ammo box, old Federal labeling.

Where is the zombie expert, Gatorfarmer, when you need him????:confused:
Steve

I never read the 15-22 section- simply because I don't own one. Never saw the thread until it was linked to in the lounge.

For classic "movie" zombies it actually a relatively small part of the brain that had to be destroyed. This was shown in "Day of the Dead" where they had a zombie skull cut down and most of the brain gone. A .22LR round bouncing around in the gray mushy stuff wouldn't likely do that. Sure it might destroy the ability to do math, but with the classic Romero zombies.... they don't have higher brain functions anyway.

The actual spot that you need to hit in a human brain for instant incapacitation is about the size of a dime. Targets marketed to precision marksmen (aka snipers) in LEO actually feature this. LE precision work involves a centerfire rifle of close tolerances, good optics, and ranges under 100 yards.

Assuming diseased humans - there really were shuffling zombie sorts amongst survivors of the 1918 flu pandemic, but they didn't eat people - the first question would be the rules of engagement. People walk around with various potentially contagious diseases now, some blood borne, but we don't shoot them. Legal aspects of dealing with "zombies" would be more complicated than you think. If anything allowed a disease of this type to spread, that would be what did it.

Anyway... back to hardware. A .22LR, even from a rifle, is not going to reliably penetrate a human skull at all angles. Human skulls are actually rather durable, and some people do literally have harder heads than others. For a normal living human having a .22LR get into the gray squishy stuff is normally bad news, but not necessarily fatal or even immediately incapacitating.

At one point during the Iraq conflict, when the Marines first got the ACOG, there was actually an investigation as to why so many insurgents were turning up dead from headshots. The fear was that prisoners were being executed. It turned out that this wasn't the case. The ACOG was simply allowing the Marines to make precise headshots even under combat conditions.

Most people aren't trained as well as Marines of course.

If playing at being light infantry it actually isn't your ammo load that will drop most people, unless they are carrying 20 or more mags. It is the weight of body armor, food, water, and other various items that becomes a problem. (Circa 2003/2004 members of the 101st Abn in Afghanistan found themselves mobility limited on foot because of the simple weight of all their gear.)

One problem with the AR in centerfire guise is that they are officially rated at a sustained rate of fire of perhaps 100rds a minute tops. That might be optimistic. Sustained firing will heat up the weapon and cause a loss of accuracy and even possible damage to the weapon.

I suppose someone could invent an ersatz water cooled bbl shroud upper, something like an old Maxim gun. A water cooled MG of circa WW1 tech like the Vickers gun can actually fire essentially indefinitely btw. (The Brits in a test kept one running straight out for well over 100,000 rds.)

Pistol caliber carbines will increase hit probability compared to a handgun, but they are going to lack the range and penetration of a rifle round. Long story short - head wounds or any other kind of wound from a centerfire rifle is far more damaging.

If someone wants to use a suppressor - which can also eliminate muzzle flash and protect their hearing of course - keep in mind that most have a finite life, require extra care and maintenance, and generally even the best ones can cause at least some slight reduction in reliable operation of a weapon.

So anyway... if you want the ultimate zombie killer, I suppose the answers is a Vickers gun, tripod, lots of water cans and ammo belts, and perhaps try putting modern optics on one. For off the shelf purchases? For most people it is probably going to be a well made AR, AK, FAL clone, M1A or whatever they personally can afford and know how to use. Relatively expensive ruggedized optics of the sort sold for military applications would make whatever gun was chosen more effective.

Having good armor and rifle plates is actually more important than the above choice. If you're out shooting zombies, chances are that other people will likely have the same idea so a fair amount of errant projectiles would and mistaken identity shootings would likely be more of a threat than the actual zombies. (Don't believe me? Ever hunted public land on the first day of deer season? Now remove the bag limit, game regulations, and have the prey look and walk like you... yeah, it wouldn't be fun...)

Or... yeah... Just get a Krag and learn to use the magazine cut off and fill ammo can after ammo can with reloads. Brass lasts a long time. Not much recoil. Old aftermarket rear apeture sights make hitting easy and they were designed to fire volleys into crowds of hostile natives all day long.

Down side is that engaging multiple targets at close range becomes a bit problematic if they are moving at more than a shuffle.
 
You got my vote.... Here one for the books, "Are you afraid of the big tough guy with a .50 cal. or the small skinny dude with a Ruger 22".. I would bet the skinny dude is a professional hit man because the 22 in the right hand is deadly and quiet.. For paper Zombies, Yea, for real, I'll use my Spike Tactical AR15 5.56... Keep them in the ZERO!
 
my 870 police mag. w/ 4 shot ext. speed feed 4 shell butt stock and 6 shell side saddle. 00 buck :) i'st been ceracoated so blood and guts wont upset it. no need for long range, or to close. also need my x-d .45 with all my extra 13 rounders in a courrier bag, just in case...
 
I think the 15-22 would do a good job, think back to last weeks walking dead episode when they were on top of the RV and about 75 walkers were coming. You could sit tight and pick those guys off at 20 yards all day long. The idea of having enough .223 is tough for me, its expensive, and you would need alot of it. The thought of raiding the wal mart to load up wont work, they never have **** for ammo, you might get 200 rounds from wally world if your lucky, and everyone else will be doing the same, on the other hand, I probably have 5000 rnds of of .22 in the safe. Same episode, trying to take out zombies chasing girl through woods. Supressed .22 saves the day, screw it on, take em out, screw it off. Of course I would have my XD .45 on my hip also, but for the mass slow walking zombies, even two in the head should do it. How about Stingers? Or maybe a nice 15-22 in .22 Mag.
 
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IMO, nobody can really be for sure how a .22 round will take out a zombie when shot directly in the head. My guess is that it make take a double or triple tap to the head of a zombie to drop it for good with a .22LR firearm.

That doesn't mean that I would just go to my .223 AR and use that instead. But I would try my 15-22 out first to see how well it takes out zombies, and if the results weren't to my liking right away then I would drop the gun (put it away and keep it as a last resort) and use my AR as the primary zombie killer, along with my pistols in centerfire calibers.
 
Hey everyone! New to the forums and don't own a 15-22 yet (but I will and it'll be awesome!). I have been doing some research on the lethality of the .22LR.

I have found that even at 300 yards a well placed .22LR will penetrate a 5" beef roast covered in denim. Same with a thawed turkey.

It stands to reason that a .22LR will penetrate zombie skull. After death, zombies are in a constant state of decay. Skin and bone becomes much softer. (Unless radiation has turned them into super zombies) Penetration directly to the brain shouldn't be a problem... unless you have to work on your aim.

I am not against a .223, but they make much more noise. It is widely accepted that zombies can detect movement with their rotting eyes, but it's their hearing that they rely on.

A .223 is much louder than a .22LR, there is no disputing that. The recoil is greater to. So even if the first .22LR shot misses, you can get back on target much quicker. And the weight... 100 rounds of .223 comes in around 3 lbs. a 500 round brick of .22LR is about 4 lbs... Plus .22LR is going to be much easier to find than .223 when scavenging.

During the ZA, I would love to have an armory at my disposal, but too much weight just makes me zombie food. I'm taking (looting) the most common calibers that i can, especially ones that can be used in different weapons. The plan is my 9mm Beretta M-9, a 15-22 and a shotty. Hopefully a Kel-Tec Sub2K will be in there as well since the 9mm mags will be interchangeable (and it folds up nicely).

Of course, the .22LR debate can only really be settled one way... practical application. Let's hope it doesn't come to that!
 
Hey everyone! New to the forums and don't own a 15-22 yet (but I will and it'll be awesome!). I have been doing some research on the lethality of the .22LR.

I have found that even at 300 yards a well placed .22LR will penetrate a 5" beef roast covered in denim. Same with a thawed turkey.

It stands to reason that a .22LR will penetrate zombie skull. After death, zombies are in a constant state of decay. Skin and bone becomes much softer. (Unless radiation has turned them into super zombies) Penetration directly to the brain shouldn't be a problem... unless you have to work on your aim.

I am not against a .223, but they make much more noise. It is widely accepted that zombies can detect movement with their rotting eyes, but it's their hearing that they rely on.

A .223 is much louder than a .22LR, there is no disputing that. The recoil is greater to. So even if the first .22LR shot misses, you can get back on target much quicker. And the weight... 100 rounds of .223 comes in around 3 lbs. a 500 round brick of .22LR is about 4 lbs... Plus .22LR is going to be much easier to find than .223 when scavenging.

During the ZA, I would love to have an armory at my disposal, but too much weight just makes me zombie food. I'm taking (looting) the most common calibers that i can, especially ones that can be used in different weapons. The plan is my 9mm Beretta M-9, a 15-22 and a shotty. Hopefully a Kel-Tec Sub2K will be in there as well since the 9mm mags will be interchangeable (and it folds up nicely).

Of course, the .22LR debate can only really be settled one way... practical application. Let's hope it doesn't come to that!


Welcome! While a .22 would not be my first choice for any defensive situation it has taken more deer than all other rounds combined.
 
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