Bigfoot, Sasquatch, A. Snowman: Believers?

None of the above are a problem in Michigan. I worry about Wendigos in the North woods though.

Never know what you'll run into up there with da yoopers!;)
I believe Bigfoot could very well exist. I find it strange that more hard evidence doesn't exist though. But that doesn't mean the creature itself doesn't exist. I have never seen a Bigfoot, but I've seen enough other "controversial" things to make me believe anything is possible.
 
I think you are right, any just about any deer type cartridge would do the trick, I feel safe with 06 in the woods from just about everything that inhabits them.


There is no telling what you might find out there, about 10 years ago they shot a hippo up north it escaped from someplace and some guy ran over a kangaroo. He had it stuffed, when he called the DNR they told him to sober up and call back. He insisted they come out and by George "thats a kangaroo" no fines for him because Wisconsin doesn't have a kangaroo season, they just have no idea how it got there.

If I was in the woods and saw a bigfoot i don't think i would shoot it, unless it was attacking me. I figure if I leave it alone it will leave me alone.
 
But... They might be simply inhabiting a parallel universe and intermittently travelling via a rift/flaw into ours, either accidentally or deliberately.
Is one of them named "Scotty"?






They are either close to humans in intelligence, or possibly greater. There is also a question as to whether they have the ability to cloud minds or otherwise cloak themselves.
Easily defeted by a tinfoil helmet and special space trooper goggles.








They've also been known to attack in groups, sometimes of six or more and throw rocks and otherwise use tools.
Do they attack on line, or do they fire and maneuver? We need to know this.









If I were hunting one, I'd want a Heym double rifle in .470 NE. A double rifle gives the fastest second shot possible in a truly killing caliber
You are going to need at least three double rifles, and two stalwart gunbearers. (see above about groups of six or more)






That would make them extremely dangerous. They might not even be the prey but rather the predator, hunting men like game for their own amusement.
Finally! We can settle this issue once and for all. Check DNR records and see if bigfoots(bigfeet?) are buying hunting licenses.......




Beyond that, there have been reports of Sasquatch taking humans for mating purposes. Ending up a forest bride may well be worse than being eaten.
Yep- truly the fate worse than death. Plus, after being brided (brideled?), they still might kill ya and eat ya.






(A bit of googling will turn up reports of Sasquatch raping trees and cows. Poor cows...) If I could have a pack mule, then I'd take a FAL carbine alone. Why the pack mule? For all the spare mags.
Tell the mule to save the last bullet for herself. ;)







I don't see an individual human having much of a chance unless it is a one off encounter with a single Sasquatch caught off guard.
In this case, I'd recommend using a ballistic log to remain silent. There might be others in the area, possibly cloaked, and it won't scare the bears.
 
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Hey T-Star, where are you located? I've lived in the Texarkana area all my life, so I'm well aware of the Fouke Monster legend. I don't buy any of the bigfoot stories. No bodies, no dung, no remains = no proof. Man, I sure miss Ken's House of Guns, there's no place like that around here now. I don't buy that UFOs are aliens either. How can you believe that all the governments in the world are conspiring together on anything?
 
I believe it is possible for them to exsist. There are to many new species discovered every year.


snakeman
 
I think George Lucas nailed it back in 1977. Wookies and Big Foots are one and the same.
 
I have a friend who swears he's seen a large "ape-like" creature in Central Florida in the 80' and I remember stories from when I lived in S. Fla in the 70's of the skunk ape. Enough to keep me out of the woods when I little.
 
As far as the Bigfoot, yeti and other primates, I'm a non believer. As far as other species that exist but we don't know about--- I think there are insects, fish and maybe some mammals that are yet unclassified and unknown. Areas of south america and asia are still unexplored even today.
If I'm going to a bigfoot shootout-- I'll take a 6 1/2 inch 500 for a handgun and I'll pull out my 'bear roller' a 50 alaskan leveraction that shoots a 535 grain woodleigh at 2100 fps for 5300 ft/lbs of energy at the muzzle. It also holds 8 rounds in the tube plus 1 in the chamber. If it rolls bigfoot like it does everything else I've shot with it-- no worries!
 
They used to exist, but evil white capitalists exterminated them for their own greed. Jeremiah Wright told me so.
 
Or they ran when they saw Leonard Nimoy when he was hosting "In search of" Don't forget Marlin Perkins went in seach of yeti and didn't find it either, that turned out to be an ape skull.
 
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Air Force,

I'm going to Key West next week. Can I borrow you spoon? Will I need a special permit, or instructions?
 
Air Force,

I'm going to Key West next week. Can I borrow you spoon? Will I need a special permit, or instructions?
Good idea- you will need to take one with you since you cannot buy one outside your state of residence. ;)
 
He had a Super Blackhawk and a .44 Magnum carbine. He shot at least one big gorilla, quite successfully. Others have shot grizzly bears with .44 Magnums, and I know of at least one killed by a S&W M-66 .357 and unspecified 158 grain .357 loads.

I suspect that most deer cartridges and rifles would suffice, although I'd like something larger than, say a .243. I doubt if more than a .375 H&H Magnum is needed.
T-Star

I suspect that most deer cartridges and rifles would suffice, although I'd like something larger than, say a .243. I doubt if more than a .375 H&H Magnum is needed.
T-Star

I don't think one can have too much gun given the risks involved.

Most serious Sasquatch researchers who believe in the "feral" population theory, will tell you that the creatures are communicating with each other. They use either log thumping or verbal calls to alert one another and monitor human intrusions. Aside from chance encounters where one finds a Sasquatch picking berries (or raping a tree) who's distracted, they seem to be seen by humans only when they want to be seen. In a fair number of such cases, they charge.

In a reported case where around a half dozen, possibly more, laid siege to a cabin, the residents had .30-30 rifles and shotguns, yet no bodies of slain creature were found. Sure they could have dragged away their casualties, but the attack continued despite the gunfire suggesting that anything short of big game cartridges fail to inspire fear into the creatures.

That's assuming that they have a solid enough physical form while in our universe - if not a feral population but instead visitors - to even be killed. Since they eat, cow molest, and so on, it would suggest that they are solid enough while here, but if they had the ability to fade in and out at will, it would possible that bullets would simply pass through the target while they are phasing between the two universes.

As many a professional Sasquatch hunter will observe - "You can't use too much gun." Except for Crazy Lonnie of Parson's Bayou Louisiana who only observes "Dey be et you sawn, don be gone in da swap" and will speak no further on the matter, though his thousand yard stare and missing eye speak of having gazed upon the horror that awaits.

Is one of them named "Scotty"?

Easily defeted by a tinfoil helmet and special space trooper goggles.

Do they attack on line, or do they fire and maneuver? We need to know this.

You are going to need at least three double rifles, and two stalwart gunbearers. (see above about groups of six or more)

Finally! We can settle this issue once and for all. Check DNR records and see if bigfoots(bigfeet?) are buying hunting licenses.......

Yep- truly the fate worse than death. Plus, after being brided (brideled?), they still might kill ya and eat ya.

Tell the mule to save the last bullet for herself. ;)

In this case, I'd recommend using a ballistic log to remain silent. There might be others in the area, possibly cloaked, and it won't scare the bears.

All excellent points. Some inviduals do claim to have had in depth conversations with their neighborhood Sasquatches, and claim that the creatures can understand and speak English, albeit in a "growling" manner. A few people have even claimed to have had more intimate relationships - either consentual or not so consentual with the creatures. These reports have indicated that the creatures have names, and have indeed been willing to adapt easily understood human names to make conversations easier. As to where they'd have learned English, one can only speculate, perhaps they have televisons. If so, the digital switch over may have contributed to their hostility to humans, since - being unable to get converter boxes - they can no longer watch Maury in the morning.

Defeating Sasquatch mind powers - if such exists, since expert opinion is divided - would likely require one to find an Indian (American, or sub continent there of, either would probably work) Shaman/mystic. Or when hunting yetis, perhaps a Tibetan monk. But not the Dahli Lama himself, as yeti hunting would be beneath his exhaulted post. A lesser shaman, monk or mystic, but still trained in the art of resisting Sasquatch mind magic. Solemn nod.

Perhaps some sherpas could be trained to do double duty as gun bearers. If not, random college age interns, not too bright ones, of an appropriate ethnic mix (which must include the girl with the heart of gold, the bad boy, the gothic girl, and the guy from the hood, with someone from Brooklyn thrown in for good measure) should be selected and encouraged to do things like seperate, not pay attention to their surroundings, and go out alone at night. Also to investigate any strange sounds or abandoned buildings with blood splattered wallls.

There would be a risk of even technological tracking means failing, assuming that Sasquatch could control his body temperature and what spectrums of light allow him to be visible. Could we really afford to assume that? Perhaps best to get the shaman and the thermal imaging.

Among those reported Bigfoot attacks involving multiple adversaries, most take place under cover of darkness. Some are preceded by a barrage of rocks, often quite large, to intimidate and subdue resistance. Others simply find the unfortunate victim dragged off, still in their sleeping bag, taken to a secluded forest lair for a terrible fate. Some indications suggest that females and off spring will make themselves visible and attempt to attract the attention of humans by presenting a more harmless approach. They will then attempt to lure or distract the humans while the others attack.

All the while tree banging and calls are used to coordinate and perhaps even call for reinforcements. A tactical reload would almost certainly be warranted even if one managed to kill a single creature happened upon at random. Perhaps one of the respected tactical training schools can offer a double rifle class to address this if there is sufficient demand...

Good point though, always best to save one round for the mule too.
 
Air Force,

I'm going to Key West next week. Can I borrow you spoon? Will I need a special permit, or instructions?

Sorry.. It can only be carried by someone with a proper spoon permit. Getting the permit costs an arm and a leg and takes about three years of paper work and formal hearings plus thousands of hours of logged training. Open carry or concealed, you still need the permit.
 
Gatofarmer

"In a reported case where around a half dozen, possibly more, laid siege to a cabin, the residents had .30-30 rifles and shotguns, yet no bodies of slain creature were found. Sure they could have dragged away their casualties, but the attack continued despite the gunfire suggesting that anything short of big game cartridges fail to inspire fear into the creatures."

I'm not willing to totally discount the possibility of Bigfoot, but this just sounds like a case of bad 'shine.
 
""It can only be carried by someone with a proper spoon permit.""

I was an aircraft electician in the NAR, about a hundred years ago, does that count?

Between the homeless people (zombies in disguise), Key deer (pit bulls in disguise), Gays (not that there's anything wrong with that), and those darned 6 legged cats (aliens from sector 17 in the gamma globulen galaxy), it's pretty scary.



So what do you say?




PS, I think I need to stop reading Gatorfarmer's posts.
 
Gatofarmer

"In a reported case where around a half dozen, possibly more, laid siege to a cabin, the residents had .30-30 rifles and shotguns, yet no bodies of slain creature were found. Sure they could have dragged away their casualties, but the attack continued despite the gunfire suggesting that anything short of big game cartridges fail to inspire fear into the creatures."

I'm not willing to totally discount the possibility of Bigfoot, but this just sounds like a case of bad 'shine.

While I wrote with tonge somewhat in cheek, everything I referenced in passing is indeed part of "Sasquatch lore" including that incident.

I'm going from memory, but basically it was a group of guys in a cabin that claimed that they were attacked by a number of the creatures throwing rocks and otherwise rattling/banging about. Having firearms, the men did fire, but apparently without killing anything. Since they were shooting at night, and were apparently rattled, it's understandable why they might have missed. Or maybe they didn't...

One can never really go far wrong under the "use a big gun" theory in most any discussion. And against a possibly nine foot, tool using, muscular primate... I honestly would go with classic dangerous game calibers, which means ".40 plus". The intelligence factor, of unknown potential, would make one more dangerous than any other animal save humans, and humans are relatively think skinned. Real reports do mention a "charge" and that some of the creatures reported are quite violent.

Loren Coleman - who's sort of a respected figure in this type of thing, in so far as one can be - discussed the cow and tree molesting at one point, and the woman who claims to talk to the local Sasquatch (and I think leaves scraps out for them) has been featured in several programs on the topic. The mating angle features in a surprising and perhaps disturbing number of cases. (Bigfoot wants our women... and our men too...) Some of these go back to stories from the pioneer days, native tales, and up through the 30s to this day. Several "adult" films of the '70s (another time period when the paranormal was popular) dealt with the subject in a rather lurid (and sometimes almost unwatchable) manner, but the stories are as "real" as are any of the reports.

The parallel worlds theory is actually growing in acceptance these days in terms of Quantum theory and some Native Americans do have mythology related to Sasquatch that seems to treat them as being something not entirely of this world rather than a normal part of the natural environment and imbued with special powers of some sort. That's part of what some of the locals say about the Yetis as well - that they can somehow cloud minds.

Really, it might be a sounder scientific footing that creatures wander in from a different universe as compared to an undiscovered breeding population (with no real fossil record, bodies, etc) remaining undiscovered to this day in North America. At least there is some theoretical science and math to back up the possibilities of things/creatures wandering in from somewhere else (accidentally or deliberately).
 
I don't believe they exist, but my other personality does...what's that? stop typying, I don't want to...excuse me while I go argue with myself.
 
Hey T-Star, where are you located? I've lived in the Texarkana area all my life, so I'm well aware of the Fouke Monster legend. I don't buy any of the bigfoot stories. No bodies, no dung, no remains = no proof. Man, I sure miss Ken's House of Guns, there's no place like that around here now. I don't buy that UFOs are aliens either. Ho can you believe that all the governments in the world are conspiring together on anything?


I'm in the D-FW area. My friend still lives in Texarkana.

I never said that the world governments are conspiring. Where did you get that?! :rolleyes: :confused: I do believe that many UN nations are conspiring to outlaw all private ownership of firearms. It's one of the few things that most of them seem to agree on.


I think certain nations may be testing flying saucers and the like. But I think some are probably extraterrestial, too.

T-Star
 
I believe in Bigfoot. I also believe they are Democrats!:eek:
Steve

I think the bikini-clad carjacker (see that thread) is a Democrat. Doesn't her mug shot look like she is?

(Don't trip rushing over to that thread; the photo has her clothed.)
 
I don't believe in Bigfoot or Sasquatch, but "abominable" describes my great-grandfather snowman quite well.

Andy
 
I'm a skeptic but not convinced that it's all faked. "Only a fool thinks he knows everything"....some famous person said that (I think)
 
I'm open-minded about it. I believe it could possibly exist; especially after seeing the vast forested areas of the northwest firsthand. There certainly seems ample habitat for a small population of unknown creatures to live undetected. I'd still like to see some solid proof, though. It seems strange no hunter has shot one in all these years.
 
I don't believe in bikini-clad carjackers, either. Never seen one, dead or alive, no droppings, nothing. :rolleyes:

Would it take a .470 Double for them, too?
 
I'm skeptical, but open minded about bigfoot, etc. Mankind doesn't know everything. If Bigfoot is humanoid, he might have the intelligence needed to do a superb job of covering his tracks.

I wonder-- What if he was a close caveman relative? Would shooting a bigfoot be murder? If he isn't listed in the game and fish commission hunting handbook is he legal to hunt?
 
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