Doug M.
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Clownshoes. I have already seen some pretty serious criticism of it in a serious ballistics discussion setting.
Black Talon for The New Millennium?
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finesse_r
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Now if they put some explosive in that tip so it blows up when it hits I might be interested. But as it is shown I have no interest in them at all.
Alpo
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There used to be such a critter. Called "Exploder". 12 bucks a box for 12, in 1981. Outlawed here in Florida, now. Supposedly they needed to be going 400 fps for the explosive to work. That way dropping them on the concrete floor would not set 'em off.
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Moonman
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Alpo,
If the average body is 10 inches thick,
You Need to spend a bunch more time at Wal-Mart.
If the average body is 10 inches thick,
You Need to spend a bunch more time at Wal-Mart.
I have seen some 158 gr LSWCHP +P with the hollow point opened up a little to accept a small charge of very fine Black Powder and a percussion pistol cap. Did not see it in action, but is sounds destructive.
CAJUNLAWYER
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think I'll stick with ball. I would not like to shoot someone with a bullet called RIP-but hey that's just me.
PA Guns & Ammo
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So what will this new bullet do better that a 45 ACP JHP can't do?
oberon
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The multiple fragments will, no doubt, raise a little hell with the trauma surgeons & pathology guys. Let's hope they don't create more problems than they solve.
Part of the change from Black Talon to SXT was to try to eliminate complaints fron the MEs office and the surgeons who got presented with the prospect of diggin' those things out of shot people. The barbs on the tips were rippin' the rubber gloves (and prickin' the fingers) as the morge & surgical people worked, and resulted in some unnecessary exposures to bloodborne pathogens. Like Hep C and HIV. (Often associated with the shoot 'em up, more ways than one, drug trade) It really caused great anger.
You will note the SXTs don't have the pointy barbs, but otherwise work exactly the same as the Black Talons. Surgeons and mortuary people happy again.
ps I have about 10 boxes of Black Talons.
Part of the change from Black Talon to SXT was to try to eliminate complaints fron the MEs office and the surgeons who got presented with the prospect of diggin' those things out of shot people. The barbs on the tips were rippin' the rubber gloves (and prickin' the fingers) as the morge & surgical people worked, and resulted in some unnecessary exposures to bloodborne pathogens. Like Hep C and HIV. (Often associated with the shoot 'em up, more ways than one, drug trade) It really caused great anger.
You will note the SXTs don't have the pointy barbs, but otherwise work exactly the same as the Black Talons. Surgeons and mortuary people happy again.
ps I have about 10 boxes of Black Talons.
paupal
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Needless to say, they look awesome. Would you sell me a box? 9mm(hhmmm?:
UncleEd
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It's not a new concept.
Dean Grennell, the reloading guru and writer of the 70s and 80s wrote of the "Arcane" bullet. It's a French idea of using the lighter weight copper in various shapes to produce high velocities and extreme cratering upon impact.
Grennell took copper rod and made some interesting nose shapes.
The French called it, according to an Internet site, Tres Haute Vitesse, very high speed. The South Africans also have experimented with this concept.
The bullets are basically short range. One published figure has a .45 ACP going 2,000 feet a second at the muzzle for more than 500 foot pounds of energy.
Dean Grennell, the reloading guru and writer of the 70s and 80s wrote of the "Arcane" bullet. It's a French idea of using the lighter weight copper in various shapes to produce high velocities and extreme cratering upon impact.
Grennell took copper rod and made some interesting nose shapes.
The French called it, according to an Internet site, Tres Haute Vitesse, very high speed. The South Africans also have experimented with this concept.
The bullets are basically short range. One published figure has a .45 ACP going 2,000 feet a second at the muzzle for more than 500 foot pounds of energy.
Can you say gimmick?
That stuff will certainly give a BG a nasty flesh wound. You can RIP with the knowledge that you're attacker spent quite a bit of time at the hospital getting the little bits dug out...
I'll just stick to tried and true conventional JHP's like Speer Gold Dots for the time being. Heck, I'd rather carry FMJ than any of the lightweight fragmenting bullets floating around.
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That stuff will certainly give a BG a nasty flesh wound. You can RIP with the knowledge that you're attacker spent quite a bit of time at the hospital getting the little bits dug out...
I'll just stick to tried and true conventional JHP's like Speer Gold Dots for the time being. Heck, I'd rather carry FMJ than any of the lightweight fragmenting bullets floating around.
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