Bodyguard 2.0 Finally Released

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After initially teasing us with a full page advertisement in Concealed Carry Magazine back in March, and offering absolutely no details. the Bodyguard 2.0 finally launched today. Prior to this, the only information we had to work with is a picture of a gun that kinda looks like the M&P Shield.

The details are on S&W's website and there's several youtube videos.

Despite the initial appearance, it's clear that the Bodyguard 2.0 is significantly different than the M&P Shield. For example: It's smaller, about half the weight, the frame is different, the trigger is different, and the pins are in different locations. It's about the size.of a Ruger LCP Max. It's a complete redesign of the original M&P Bodyguard.

With low bore axis and deep undercut of the trigger guard, the BG 2.0 likely will be a very shootable platform. Hopefully it proves to be reliable.
 
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Well, that's disappointing... I thought it was going to be an update to the M&P380 Bodyguard, but I suppose it was foolish of me considering that single stack .380 ACP Pocket Pistols are no longer in vogue.

Nevertheless, it seems like an odd decision from a marketing perspective to rebrand what is very clearly a variant of the M&P Shield as a Bodyguard.
 
Echo40 said:
Well, that's disappointing... I thought it was going to be an update to the M&P380 Bodyguard, but I suppose it was foolish of me considering that single stack .380 ACP Pocket Pistols are no longer in vogue.

Nevertheless, it seems like an odd decision from a marketing perspective to rebrand what is very clearly a variant of the M&P Shield as a Bodyguard.
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Maybe there's something we're missing based on how the picture in the advertisement scales.

I dont like jumping to conclusions but it sure does look like an updated Shield. If that's what it is, I don't understand why they wouldn't just name it the Shield 3.0 so as to minimize market confusion.

Hopefully S&W has some YouTubers under NDA who've been quietly testing and evaluating the BG 2.0 and will give us the pitch as to what this thing is very soon.

There may be a larger plan for a product line revamp that'll unfold over the next year as S&W ramps up manufacturing in the new Tennessee HQ. We'll soon see I guess.

Whatever it is, I like the stippling toward front of the frame and I like the front slide serrations.
 
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Well that's a potential kick in the teeth, because I've been waiting for a 10+1 Bodyguard Plus. I'm looking at that photo as a complete re-do of the current Bodyguard, changing it to striker fired. A striker fired pocket pistol with no manual thumb safety? No thanks. I'll stick with my hammer fired 6+1 original.
 
hyena said:
Well that's a potential kick in the teeth, because I've been waiting for a 10+1 Bodyguard Plus. I'm looking at that photo as a complete re-do of the current Bodyguard, changing it to striker fired. A striker fired pocket pistol with no manual thumb safety? No thanks. I'll stick with my hammer fired 6+1 original.
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S&W may be overhauling their naming convention. They've caught a lot of flack over the years for calling guns that are not duty grade a M&P.

Regardless of the nomenclature, it's still possible that S&W will produce something like what you described.

Whatever their plan is, I just hope that it's a clear plan.

Edit: I called S&W customer service just now and they haven't been provided with any information.
 
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They couldn’t just redesign the grip a bit to increase capacity and keep the hammer?
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DAO with a hammer is not what sells in the mass market these days. The long pull requires you practice as much as Jerry Miculek to get speed, and that does not work in the modern, instant gratification society. Read the online vitriol directed at semi-auto pistols that have a trigger reset longer than 3/16". It's all about speed for the mass market.

Almost everyone wants the Walther PPQ/H&K VP9 style 80% or more pre-cocked striker because it is so much nicer than most Glock triggers. Guns like those have a short reset so it's go-go-go. The fact that practice is required to get all those rounds somewhere on target doesn't matter to many.

SA with an internal hammer (EZ series, Ruger Security 9/380) seems to baffle many reviewers who end up saying things like, "I cannot believe they got such a good trigger on a cheap, hammer fired gun." Umm OK, Mr Reviewer, didya ever notice that the best triggers are generally on hammer fired guns?

Then there is the peculiar small group who detest internal hammers because, "I cannot see what state it is in." Point out to them that neither can they tell the state of the striker in their Glock, and that special stubborn look appears, you know, the one that says, "Don't bother me with facts." I wish I could make this stuff up.

I would love to know the difference in manufacturing cost between machining the slide for striker operation, and the machining involved in building a concealed hammer system. With the de rigeur fitment of firing pin safeties in the slide, maybe there isn't much difference. Any difference in overall cost would then come down to the difference between the engineering of internal hammer system versus that for a striker sear system. My gut feeling is that the hammer system is cheaper because it uses bigger parts with less demanding tolerances.
 
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DAO with a hammer is not what sells in the mass market these days.
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I wish the gun reviewers would have given the CSX a fair shake at launch. They treated it as if it should have a trigger that behaves like a 2011 race gun. Yes there is a perception of a false reset but that's something that can be overcome with just a little practice. I'm eager to see a CSX 2.0 and if S&W can nail the trigger, they won't be able to make enough.

Personally I'd like to see more DA/SA options with firing pin blocks on the market for CCW. CZ's P-01 is in desperate need of a refresh and they're leaving an enormous hole in the market by not doing it. Eventually someone will fill that niche.
 
I re-wrote the original post in this thread and added photos. I got my copy of Concealed Carry Magazine today and was able to look more closely at the photo.

I'll re-write it all over again as soon as S&W releases information or as soon as concrete information becomes available.
 
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Well considering the plus is in 380 supper carry making one in .380acp kinda makes sense, at least from a manufacturing position


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peterGun said:
Well considering the plus is in 380 supper carry making one in .380acp kinda makes sense, at least from a manufacturing position


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I'm not on board the 30 SC train. I'd bet money that when this Bodyguard 2.0 launches, it'll either be in 380 ACP or 9mm simply because of the popularity of those two cartridges. Launching the BG 2.0 in 30 SC would guarantee low sales performance in the market until other calibers are available.

The Bodyguard 2.0 appears to be the same size as a 9mm Shield Plus and due to the very high chamber pressure of 30 SC, it needs a 9mm size platform. So, it's not impossible for 30 SC to be one of the options available for the BG 2.0

30 SC launched during the pandemic era ammo shortage. That was about the same time as when anti-gun politicians made clear their desire to ban 9mm and above handgun ammo. I see absolutely no legal, legislative, or political path forward where they'll be able to ban those commonly used cartridges. As a result, the slow death of 30 SC is probable.
 
The difference that I see.

The 2.0 is an improvement of the original Shield and the Plus is the improvement of the 2.0. if you check the magazine capacity and the triggers you will see the difference. The Plus has more capacity.
 
My wife even at 5-2 and 68 years still carry's a 9mm in a kimber ultra or P365xl but for some years she has used a taurus TCP series b as a when a dress id needed carry in a garter belt holster . Last years after a wait and see period she picked up a ruger max 380 and a couple extra 12 round mags .
The ruger max 380 is ever so slightly larger but not enough to matter . The trigger in the TCP is better but both are under 5lb pull weight . There are other double stack options to look at .
 
Hopefully, the “xs” will be a .32 ACP! The .30 SC is a great round. The marketing is horrible. My favorite “ It’s an answer…, shoot it first then decide. I was a huge hater initially, until I shot a shield at the rental counter. It is loud, but less recoil than 9. Great accuracy, better controllability. If they put in a Macro or Hellcat pro, heck even in a subcompact you could get crazy capacity. The recoil would be suoer mild in a subcompact weapon and much more enjoyable.

Can’t wait to see what these are about.
 
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