I agree with Bam Bam, the CZ is a beauty, but I didn't suggest it since the OP said American made. If I was buying a new bolt action 22 today, the CZ would get serious consideration, country of origin not withstanding.
Robert
Robert
Bolt Action .22LR Recomendation
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Normally, I'd recommend finding a Winchester Model 69A, an extremely accurate bolt action that used a box magazine. Since you prefer a tube fed model, look for a Winchester 72 or 72A. These are otherwise identical to the 69A, except they lack a trigger pull adjustment screw.
Here is a model 72 with peep sights:
And here is the later 72A with open sights. Later ones, such as this one, were grooved for scope mounting:
Both guns were made in some quantity, and can be found at gun shows or the internet fairly easily. They don't make 'em like they used to! Here is more information on the Winchester 69 family:
http://smith-wessonforum.com/member...ster-model-69-rifles-and-their-siblings-.html
John
Here is a model 72 with peep sights:
And here is the later 72A with open sights. Later ones, such as this one, were grooved for scope mounting:
Both guns were made in some quantity, and can be found at gun shows or the internet fairly easily. They don't make 'em like they used to! Here is more information on the Winchester 69 family:
http://smith-wessonforum.com/member...ster-model-69-rifles-and-their-siblings-.html
John
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I would suggest a Marlin 981T. Some older models had nice wooden stocks, they all had tube mags and they will shoot shorts, longs and LR's. That isn't as important as it once was but it's nice to load a bunch of shorts in a rifle without a big magazine hanging down. They will hold 25 shorts.
I don't agree at all. I can load a Marlin tube twice as fast as I can load a .22 box magazine.
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I don't agree at all. I can load a Marlin tube twice as fast as I can load a .22 box magazine.
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HOUSTON RICK
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If you look up 22 rifle and search this forum you will find a lot of good information and pictures. I went on a 22 kick last year and ended up with these, but I would someday also like a CZ 452. You have a nice assortment. My bolt action 22 rifle, the Marlin XT-22 is adequate and extremely inexpensive, it will not impress anyone at the barbecue, but it will get the job done.
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nachogrande
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TUBE MAGS, & 22 mags.
TEHO, I don't care for having my hands near the muzzle for any req'd loading or field stripping. JMO Not to mention the possibility of stepping/kneeling/sitting on the tube rod & bending it. I'VE never done it, but think it likely has been done by someone. With other mags, going from a hollow point to a solid is a jiffy. Down here some WMA's restrict hog hunting to rimfires & shotguns only. I can attest to 22 mags working well on yotes.
TEHO, I don't care for having my hands near the muzzle for any req'd loading or field stripping. JMO Not to mention the possibility of stepping/kneeling/sitting on the tube rod & bending it. I'VE never done it, but think it likely has been done by someone. With other mags, going from a hollow point to a solid is a jiffy. Down here some WMA's restrict hog hunting to rimfires & shotguns only. I can attest to 22 mags working well on yotes.
I'm a big Winchester fan and own many of their 22 cal models. Please don't overlook the Remington Model 34. This is a bolt action, tube fed, .22 cal. rifle made from 1932 to 1935. It has a very unique lifter system for taking a round from the tube and "lifting" it into the barrel.
It was a very complex process, for the time, but absolutely reliable in every way. These rifles were expensive to produce thus the short life span. They are a real joy to shoot, extremely accurate, and IMHO the equal of any era produced Winchester. You can find them for $ 185-$400
If I remember correctly only about 163,000 were produced.
It was a very complex process, for the time, but absolutely reliable in every way. These rifles were expensive to produce thus the short life span. They are a real joy to shoot, extremely accurate, and IMHO the equal of any era produced Winchester. You can find them for $ 185-$400
If I remember correctly only about 163,000 were produced.
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BearBio
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I've had several Mossbergs in 22 and 22 Mag. I like the 340 and 640 series (especially "K" models) : inexpensive, accurate, take a scope.
fishcreekrim
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A lot of fumbling required to get from having a cartridge chambered to having a bolt closed on an empty chamber.
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I don't agree at all. I can load a Marlin tube twice as fast as I can load a .22 box magazine.
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I agree with you about loading, my point is not loading, it is transitioning from loaded chamber to empty chamber with a full magazine(or tube).
As I ranch during the day, in my pickup I carry a .22, chamber empty, magazine topped off.
Say I encounter a muskrat in an irrigation ditch. When the encounter is over I probably have a round chambered. I find it fairly simple to drop the magazine, eject the live round into my hand, close the action, top off the magazine, insert the magazine and go on.
With a tube feed, something like, extend the follower, tip rifle down, cycle the action, it seems like at this point, after the round comes out of the chamber, another round will come up to the chamber from the loading mechanism, but not always. Close the action once you are doubly sure there is not a cartridge in the chamber. Tip rifle back up, top off tube with ejected rounds, hope no rounds fell on the ground while rifle was tipped down, perhaps retrieve those rounds, return follower. At this point you are ready to go on.
This may well not be a big deal for those that go out to the field or range, load, hunt or shoot until done, then unload their rifle completely. JMHO/YMMV
A lot of fumbling required to get from having a cartridge chambered to having a bolt closed on an empty chamber.
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I don't agree at all. I can load a Marlin tube twice as fast as I can load a .22 box magazine.
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I agree with you about loading, my point is not loading, it is transitioning from loaded chamber to empty chamber with a full magazine(or tube).
As I ranch during the day, in my pickup I carry a .22, chamber empty, magazine topped off.
Say I encounter a muskrat in an irrigation ditch. When the encounter is over I probably have a round chambered. I find it fairly simple to drop the magazine, eject the live round into my hand, close the action, top off the magazine, insert the magazine and go on.
With a tube feed, something like, extend the follower, tip rifle down, cycle the action, it seems like at this point, after the round comes out of the chamber, another round will come up to the chamber from the loading mechanism, but not always. Close the action once you are doubly sure there is not a cartridge in the chamber. Tip rifle back up, top off tube with ejected rounds, hope no rounds fell on the ground while rifle was tipped down, perhaps retrieve those rounds, return follower. At this point you are ready to go on.
This may well not be a big deal for those that go out to the field or range, load, hunt or shoot until done, then unload their rifle completely. JMHO/YMMV
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TomkinsSP
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Does anyone here have any experience with the Marlin XT-22. There is a tube fed example at a LGS, which I have handled but obviously not fired. (They would sell a lot more if you could take 'em on a test drive.) One advantage of the tube magazine is it will feed .22 shorts, which should be really quiet pest repellant from a 20+ inch barrel.
I had a XT-22 with the tube mag. It loaded shorts, longs and LR's too. I really liked that gun. I ended up giving it to my daughter's boyfriend because he did some work for me and I have a whole safe full of .22's. I've thought about buying another one if that tells you anything. They are nice rifles especially for hunting squirrels. They're light and you can load 25 shorts and be ready for an army of squirrels even if you miss a lot.
Isn't it possible to step on a box mag and bend it too? As far as loading with a hand near the muzzle, I know better than to load any gun without knowing if there is a round in the chamber or not and the loading point on tube mags does not require sticking your hand in front of the muzzle. I've been loading Marlins for over 50 years and I've never had a problem yet including no bent inner magazine tubes either. And I've never lost one which is also something that happens with box mags. Replacing a inner magazine tube isn't that hard to do especially with Marlin products. They have a large base of parts available.
Just to be straightforward I've seen the same complaint about being too close to the muzzle before but no one ever talks about being too close the muzzle when loading a snub nose revolver. You get just as close to the business end of those as you do a tube mag on a rifle. Closer than some rifles. I do know the tube has to be inserted from the front but I learned long ago to keep my hand away from the muzzle while doing it. And again I check the chamber before loading any gun.
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American made rules out old world craftsmanship
I absolutely love quality bolt action 22 rimfire rifles. That love affair began with my Winchester Model 52-C. Unfortunately, that breed of accurate, quality built, fit and finished firearm no longer exists originated in the USA. I am also a patriot who prefers American products. Since 2007, I have built a stable of four rimfire bolt rifles and all four came from the Czech Republic. Once you have experienced the fit, finnish,quality and accuracy of CZ rimfires, you just can't consider anything else for rimfire shooting pleasure. What CZ offers gives you the opportunity to go back in time 50 or 60 years to find quality not available today from anyplace else. Unless, of course, you have deep pockets and unlimited funds to support your fancies. You can find better, nicer, more accurate for 3 times the price, but even those will not be from the USA. Pick up a CZ 452, it will not be your last and you will thank me
I absolutely love quality bolt action 22 rimfire rifles. That love affair began with my Winchester Model 52-C. Unfortunately, that breed of accurate, quality built, fit and finished firearm no longer exists originated in the USA. I am also a patriot who prefers American products. Since 2007, I have built a stable of four rimfire bolt rifles and all four came from the Czech Republic. Once you have experienced the fit, finnish,quality and accuracy of CZ rimfires, you just can't consider anything else for rimfire shooting pleasure. What CZ offers gives you the opportunity to go back in time 50 or 60 years to find quality not available today from anyplace else. Unless, of course, you have deep pockets and unlimited funds to support your fancies. You can find better, nicer, more accurate for 3 times the price, but even those will not be from the USA. Pick up a CZ 452, it will not be your last and you will thank me
TEHO, I don't care for having my hands near the muzzle for any req'd loading or field stripping. JMO Not to mention the possibility of stepping/kneeling/sitting on the tube rod & bending it. I'VE never done it, but think it likely has been done by someone. With other mags, going from a hollow point to a solid is a jiffy. Down here some WMA's restrict hog hunting to rimfires & shotguns only. I can attest to 22 mags working well on yotes.
I have seen far more guns with lost magazines than missing tube plungers or bent tubes. The reliability of the system is there for me but it is slower.
Another nice thing about the CZ rimfires...... new magazines are still available...... and CZ puts them on sale 2X per year......interchangeable between our 4 .22s..... I've built up a small stash over the last 7 year.
squidsix
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CZ 452 or 455. No practical difference other than that you can get a blue and walnut 455 threaded from the factory with rifle sights.
Have two 452s and they outshoot all my other rimfire guns at less cost. (Including the over rated Anschutz in the closet)
Have two 452s and they outshoot all my other rimfire guns at less cost. (Including the over rated Anschutz in the closet)
Smith357
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I'm going to mention a couple of American made rifles that have not been listed yet, The Kimber 82c made in Oregon or the Kimber .22 made in NY, also the Cooper Jackson Squirrel made in Montana. They are all heirloom quality rifles that are elegant and accurate.
ggibson511960
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Ruger 77/22
Ruger 77/22's are to .22 LR what the AR platform is to centerfire. The barrel is ridiculously easy to change out to 17 Hornady Mach 2, and 17 HMR or 22 Magnum Rimfire with a barrel and trigger guard change, all great fun if one gets bored with 22 LR. The 77/22 trigger is tunable if one wants match quality trigger action and the receiver/barrel group bedding can be easily tuned if one is dissatisfied with accuracy. You can hang whatever barrel configuration strikes your fancy with an allen wrench. It's a fun platform to play with, plenty accurate in stock form, but responds well to hobbyist intervention, everything we want in a play gun or practical hunter.
Ruger 77/22's are to .22 LR what the AR platform is to centerfire. The barrel is ridiculously easy to change out to 17 Hornady Mach 2, and 17 HMR or 22 Magnum Rimfire with a barrel and trigger guard change, all great fun if one gets bored with 22 LR. The 77/22 trigger is tunable if one wants match quality trigger action and the receiver/barrel group bedding can be easily tuned if one is dissatisfied with accuracy. You can hang whatever barrel configuration strikes your fancy with an allen wrench. It's a fun platform to play with, plenty accurate in stock form, but responds well to hobbyist intervention, everything we want in a play gun or practical hunter.
