Border Patrol Agent Killed - Traffic Stop

[biku324]

Depending on what was known/suspected about the occupants of the stopped vehicle, the stop should have required more LE and been done as a high risk (sometimes imprecisely called a "felony stop") stop. It is hard to believe how long it was ago, but my old agency had a similar event involving patrol making a stop for a task force. Hard lessons were learned.

NMSP Officer Darian Jarrott paid with his life to learn those hard lessons.

"According to reporting from the Albuquerque Journal, (NMSP Sgt.) Madrid oversaw some of the operations and told Bregman that NMSP was not at fault for Jarrott's death. Madrid said that he thought Homeland Security Investigations — a federal organization under the U.S. Immigration, Customs and Enforcement agency that was involved in the investigation into (themurderer) Cueva — was "confused on what they were doing."

Madrid also said that HSI did not provide him with enough information about Cueva, specifically the alleged comment about Cueva not wanting to go back to jail.

“I will not work with (HSI),” Madrid said. “They do not put the information out, I believe, properly for officer safety purposes.” Your browser is not supported | lcsun-news.com

 

[Doug M.]

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FML. There is a reason that I regularly note that most feds are not "cops"; criminal investigators who do more detailed work generally are not up to snuff on patrol procedures. Not a critique, usually, just a fact. I do have friends who have been cross-appointed and cross trained, but my understanding is that this is not the norm.

And I have heard similar about other events with feds. In this case, it seems like the encounter went too long at too low a level. 15 minutes is forever, and one could suspect that the occupants should have been separated from the car, and arguably handcuffed. When there is reason to suspect that one is dealing with malefactors, there are 2 basic paths: Act like they are bad guys, or stop interacting with them if you don't think you have an adequate basis for assertive tactics.

 

[Screwball]

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FML. There is a reason that I regularly note that most feds are not "cops"; criminal investigators who do more detailed work generally are not up to snuff on patrol procedures. Not a critique, usually, just a fact. I do have friends who have been cross-appointed and cross trained, but my understanding is that this is not the norm.

And I have heard similar about other events with feds. In this case, it seems like the encounter went too long at too low a level. 15 minutes is forever, and one could suspect that the occupants should have been separated from the car, and arguably handcuffed. When there is reason to suspect that one is dealing with malefactors, there are 2 basic paths: Act like they are bad guys, or stop interacting with them if you don't think you have an adequate basis for assertive tactics.

I can speak more for OFO than BP… but yes. I’ve had people sit in the lane while the officer tries to figure out the why to send them inside. Establish something is off… send inside and we will deal with it. More time sitting, the better prepared they get.

BP in my neck of the woods is lax, but not 15 minutes lax.

That being said, I did a little digging with that last link (post 20) that said to name the persons… let’s just say, keep an eye out for a correction.

 

[dockmurgw]

This makes my head spin.

Suspects in killings of Vermont border patrol agent and California man connected by marriage license, extreme ideology - VTDigger

 

[biku324]

So much for the theory the German did not have or need a visa. He certainly doesn't need one now.

Crazies and international borders go together like stink and, er, skunks. Maybe these pukes just spent too much time watching Breaking Bad reruns; I am comforted to know the Agent was part of a larger BP group that stopped the murderers.

 

[HardToHandle]

This makes my head spin.

Suspects in killings of Vermont border patrol agent and California man connected by marriage license, extreme ideology - VTDigger

Militant Vegans.

Really.