Boston bomb suspect Tamerlan Tsarnaev included on list of victims of gun violence at

Old Tamerlan was the victim of the stolen Mercedes SUV driven by his brother. It rolled over Tamerlan's head as the brother was running from the police. Around here, he's affectionately known as "Speedbump."

this is exactly correct! I have a relative in the Mass. ME's office and they found he was killed by his brother running over him. No one makes a point of this I guess because they're pleased with the idea the police nailed him first.

Whatever!!
 
He was wounded, but alive, and the PD was cuffing him on the street when the second brother made his move. He hit the two cruisers behind the officers, and they barely jumped out of the way. Numerous LEO's were firing from all angles, and transit officer Richard Donohue caught a .45 slug through the femoral artery. He was without a pulse when he arrived at the hospital, but they saved him, and last week he went home on crutches to celebrate Father's Day with his wife and 7-month old son.
 
If this guy is a victim of "gun violence, then every perp shot by a LEO is also a victim of gun violence. Kind of makes you look sideways at their statistics.
Statistics are suppose to be blind to cause...ALL deaths by gun violence is just that, whether three year olds shot by their brother, 15 year old girl shot by stray bullet from drive-by or LEO killing perp.

The database from which the data was gleaned is very specific about addressing that...ALL means ALL...no judgement, just raw data.
 
Statistics are suppose to be blind to cause...ALL deaths by gun violence is just that, whether three year olds shot by their brother, 15 year old girl shot by stray bullet from drive-by or LEO killing perp.

The database from which the data was gleaned is very specific about addressing that...ALL means ALL...no judgement, just raw data.

In other words figures don't lie, but liars figure.
 
this is exactly correct! I have a relative in the Mass. ME's office and they found he was killed by his brother running over him. No one makes a point of this I guess because they're pleased with the idea the police nailed him first.

Whatever!!
The coroners report specifically says he was killed by "gunshot wounds of torso and extremities and blunt trauma to head and torso."

Tamerlan Tsarnaev Death Certificate: Read The Boston Bombing Suspect's Burial Details And Cause Of Death [DOCUMENT]
 
In other words figures don't lie, but liars figure.
I have found that folks usually don't trust statistics when they disagree with a preconceived notion and will fight to the end to support them if the stats support their belief.

But this has nothing to do with the statistics...it has to do with the PUBLISHED methodology of data collection.
 
There have been a couple of articles in "The American Rifleman" about the use of polls and statistics. The anti gun folks say that polls say over 90% of Americans want better background checks. Yet other polls say only about 50% want further gun laws.

Of course the anti gun politicians are more than happy to give us a "background check" law with gun registration buried inside (bait and switch).
 

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