Bought a 5.7 today at LGS

[hardluk1]

Great post, as it affords me with the unique opportunity (first time ever in history?) to argue that one of the 5.7x28's advantages is that it is so inexpensive!

(1 round of Underwood 9mm Luger +P 68gr Xtreme Defender costs about twice as much as a round of factory FN 5.7x28. Go figure!)

And the 5.7-28 cost way more than 22mag that some think is about as good from a small bore handgun . Not me ether .

Now remember the 5.7 is not a hot rod fired from a pistol and does not give you the same tissue damage as it could cause fired from a longer barrel like even with a 10" to 16" barrel . You also do not have the lower cost ammo like with a 9mm normal ammo lines does for normal range use But you will have that cool factor with a 5.7 ,, well for a little while .

Hope some of you early buyers know as beta testers don't run in issues found with one other m&p newer pistol . OH have you priced 5.7 better defensive ammo like speer gold dot ammo lately $$$ . Go Figure is right . But then it is hard to put a price on defensive ammo right ? The so called Hyper performance for the 5.7 is still only when its fired from a longer barrel than the current bunch handguns .

I stay with a heavy and slow 45 or a 155gr 1300fps 40sw . Enjoy the 5.7 - Honestly enjoy

 

[hardluk1]

I don't want to get shot with anything. I bought a 9mm shield it has the Calif required manual safety and what a ***. I'm sorry, if that is an example of S&W today I'm not a customer. For the life of me I do not understand a striker fired automatic with no safety except that little goober on the trigger. A commercial 1911 has a very reachable with the side of the thumb safety and it has two more safeties on top of that. If you have trouble racking it, cock the hammer first. Or a mod 36 is so safe it smiles at you. You could throw it at someone miss and it ain't going off. I can put 5 in your body at 50 yds and that Shield isn't doing that anytime soon. I cannot see feeling comfortable with a Glock or any of these small hard to load gems in your belt or pocket. And its not a training issue it's a common sense issue for me. To each his own.

Not sure if your cornfused or not but this treads on the 5.7 that has an internal hammer not a striker fired design !! IF it only with a m&p shield then It most be the short barrel version as I watched a guy shooting the 4" plus versions a few days ago that was right impressive with it . Ether take up your whine with Commifornia politicians or buy something else to carry or MOVE to a friendlier state . . You do have a choice's so why the whine !?

 

[oldiegoldie]

for those of us who aren't up to speed on 1911's....what's a mod 36?

 

[Dave Haynes]

Actually I was responding to the post that complained of no manual safety. The comment on the modern S&W shield was just a rant on modern firearms and how unsafe I think some are. My Model 41 and 39-2 are wonderful well made firearms. The Shield is a bad joke by comparison, but that's just how they make guns today.

I was born in Calif and lived here my whole life except when I was drafted and saw Colorado and Vietnam on Uncle's dime. It is a third world dump now filled with people who don't read, don't know history, and generally don't care, having never seen what a free country was like. I'm 78 now and too old to move.

 

[Dave Haynes]

for those of us who aren't up to speed on 1911's....what's a mod 36?

A Chiefs Special.

 

[oldiegoldie]

o.k., thanks. i interpreted "mod" as abbreviation for modification.

i think we're in agreement regarding manual safeties. at 84 yrs of age, i've come to realize i'm not infallible........my chances of a negligent discharge are much greater than my chances of having to use a weapon in self defense. i do carry every day, however, and go to the range at least weekly to stay familiar with my firearms.

 

[Dave Haynes]

Hi, Thanks, I completely agree.
Here in Sonoma County we have a new sheriff who is apparently open to issuing CCPs to people who ask. There are 38,000 unlicensed and uninsured illegals driving around.

My brother lives in Wash State and a few years back he was involved in a situation where he had to use his weapon to stop an armed robbery. The newspapers had it all wrong and what they sold as true almost put him into a prison cell.

 

[quikdraw67]

That gun looks great ...but here in NJ that nice 22 round magazine would have to be pegged to 10 rounds

Psstt....the left bank of the Delaware River is a free state,for now.

We need more of you PRNJ refugees to move west and help us keep PA firearm friendly.

 

[LVSteve]

My brother lives in Wash State and a few years back he was involved in a situation where he had to use his weapon to stop an armed robbery. The newspapers had it all wrong and what they sold as true almost put him into a prison cell.

No surprise there. About 20 years ago a former coworker was an LEO in Seattle after his time in the Navy. Guy in a truck knocked down him and his partner, made a U-turn and came back to finish the job. My coworker killed him. At the inquiry the local DA's office were openly hostile and aggressive. It was called a good shoot, and shortly afterwards he quit. He said something at his exit interview to effect that the sooner Mt Rainier erupted and buried Seattle the better.

 

[VictorLouis]

Okay, can one of you owners check something?
I've seen that what protrudes from the muzzle is the barrel, but a shroud. Does the actual bore and crown stop at the end of the slide, or does it come out almost to the end of that threaded-cap?
Thanks.

 

[snw19_357]

Looks like the barrel (I see rifling) protrudes from the slide and comes out to the end of the threaded cap.

 

[hardluk1]

Actually I was responding to the post that complained of no manual safety. The comment on the modern S&W shield was just a rant on modern firearms and how unsafe I think some are. My Model 41 and 39-2 are wonderful well made firearms. The Shield is a bad joke by comparison, but that's just how they make guns today.

I was born in Calif and lived here my whole life except when I was drafted and saw Colorado and Vietnam on Uncle's dime. It is a third world dump now filled with people who don't read, don't know history, and generally don't care, having never seen what a free country was like. I'm 78 now and too old to move.

NO manual safety . Wake up and check S&W's site . Looks like a thumb safety to me !?

Website

 

[snw19_357]

They do show a SKU (13347) with a manual safety but so far I have seen mostly the NTS (13348) version available.
Since it is a hammer fired, single action; I'm waiting for the TS version

 

[hardluk1]

They do show a SKU (13347) with a manual safety but so far I have seen mostly the NTS (13348) version available.
Since it is a hammer fired, single action; I'm waiting for the TS version

The sku:13347 models have been out there for sale but it would seem many of those sold out quickly . Our general store at least had one but 5.7 does not sell well in our rural county at least and brand does not matter .

 

[shipwreck]

The Shield is a bad joke by comparison, but that's just how they make guns today.

That's your opinion. Many of us here disagree with you.

The Shield and Shield Plus are awesome guns. I've owned three digits worth of guns over the past 30 years. The Shield Plus series is amazing. The 4" version shoots unbelievably well.

As for the safety - I only ever kept it activated on 1911s, or other SAO guns (with the hammer back).

 

[VictorLouis]

What do you mean by "a normal barrel"???

LV, one that stops at the end of the slide, not sticking out like it is on this model.

Looks like the barrel (I see rifling) protrudes from the slide and comes out to the end of the threaded cap.

I got a response back from Customer Service that a regular barrel was not planned. Hmm, I wonder if that could be cut-down by a competent smith.
From their marketing pamphlet, it looks like the gas routing system is well behind the muzzle-end of the slide. Seems like it would still function fine.

I got hands-on with a SAFETY-equipped version today. Perfectly executed IMHO. It's JUST large enough to positively manipulate. It's difficult to activate (pushing up), unless you use both thumbs, LOL. So, it should be nigh-on impossible to inadvertently activate it. It's quite firm and positive on the release. Has a rather audilble CLICK to it when you do so, also.

They would do well to figure out how to put this safety lever mechanism onto the Shield pistols. The safety on those is horrible.

 

[0849]

Given the interesting barrel design and fire control mechanism, wondering if a compact model is out of the question or if that might be a possibility in the future?

 

[Mark8]

Given the interesting barrel design and fire control mechanism, wondering if a compact model is out of the question or if that might be a possibility in the future?

It would be possible, but having an even shorter barrel is probably not very desirable for this caliber. You'd get even more flash and bang while losing even more performance. I think that's the reason for all the existing 5.7x28 handguns having longer barrels. (FN=4.8", Ruger=5", PSA=4.7"/5.2", S&W=5")

 

[shipwreck]

It would be possible, but having an even shorter barrel is probably not very desirable for this caliber. You'd get even more flash and bang while losing even more performance. I think that's the reason for all the existing 5.7x28 handguns having longer barrels. (FN=4.8", Ruger=5", PSA=4.7"/5.2", S&W=5")

Sho nuff.....

 

[Dogmann]

So the Holosun 507K x2 is a direct milled fit for the M&P 5.7. I purchased one and the screw's provided do not fit. Has anyone here with one used this optic? If so what screws???