Bought SD40VE, retuning it for a Glock.

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Bought my wife a SD40VE Saturday at the local gun show. We went to the local gun range and shot it today. SO DISAPPOINTED. The gun would fire in a few rounds and then the trigger would not go off. It would pull all the way back to the stop and not release the firing pin. It started this with my wife shooting it. I tried it with out any bullets in it and every few tries it would do the same with me.. IT is going back and I am going to get another Glock!!
 
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We really liked the looks and feel of the gun... it just wouldn't fire consistently. Don't want or need a gun I cant trust to go Bang when it is needed. It was going to be her carry gun.
 
Me and my wife both shot it. It has to be a defect in the gun. You can pull the trigger all the way back and it does not always set off the firing pin.
 
Every gun maker can have a lemon, even in a run of very good, very reliable guns. It might be worth your time/money to send it to S&W (they will pay for shipping both ways) and let them fix it. If it runs right, you will save about $200 and have a good gun in the process. For what it's worth, I've owned a number of Glocks, and had a few problems with them...most were fine, but a couple had the BTF issue, for example. Glock's support isn't as good, IMO, as S&W...but, I can go in a local shop and find a Glock armorer, and I can't with S&W.

It's a decision that only you can make. You and/or your wife have to be confident in your firearm, and that is the main criteria...what works for someone else may not work for you, and vice versa.

Good luck!

Edited to ask: did you clean the gun before you took it to the range?
 
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GKC said:
Edited to ask: did you clean the gun before you took it to the range?
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I have always wondered about this question, and now is the time to ask, I think. The gun was manufactured, evaluated, and test fired, successfully. Evidence of the successful test fire is in the box. Why would one need to clean a firearm after it was fired once or twice to insure that it would fire again?
 
Muss Muggins said:
I have always wondered about this question, and now is the time to ask, I think. The gun was manufactured, evaluated, and test fired, successfully. Evidence of the successful test fire is in the box. Why would one need to clean a firearm after it was fired once or twice to insure that it would fire again?
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Guns are normally shipped in a preservative which is different than a gun oil. Often it will state in the manual to clean and oil it prior to use. I realize the manual is usually only read as a last resort. :(
 
Gun was cleaned before it went to the range. It would NOT FIRE randomly throught out a clip of ammo. Not always the third shot or fourth, but sometimes two or three times in a row. You could let off of the trigger and it would fire the second pull. Let me ask something. Would anyone let there Spouse carry a gun that will not fire anytime the trigger is pulled to protect themselves and your children.. I believe I will get a big "NO" as the answer from everyone. We liked the gun BUT. I WILL NOT HAVE OR KEEP A GUN THAT JAMS MISSFIRES OR WILL NOTFIRE EVERYTIME THE TRIGGER IS PULLED. That is suicide!! I LOVE my Smith revolver, but am going to go with a Glock for Autos.
 
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Muss Muggins said:
I have always wondered about this question, and now is the time to ask, I think. The gun was manufactured, evaluated, and test fired, successfully. Evidence of the successful test fire is in the box. Why would one need to clean a firearm after it was fired once or twice to insure that it would fire again?
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As has been mentioned, the prep from the factory does not include a complete clean. In fact, I called S&W once and asked why the gun appeared to be dirty if it was new...why didn't they clean it? I was told that the gun was test fired in its assembled configuration, and if they disassembled it to clean it, they'd have to test fire it again after assembly to certify that it worked when assembled. (Sounds like a bit of bushwa to me, but that's the answer I got.)

I have seen a fair number of guns with oily residue, shavings, coffee mugs, and other debris from the manufacturing process in the firing pin/striker channel...which can lead to misfires. Oil or other preservatives can work its way into the fire control group and magazines, especially on imported guns.

I've always cleaned and lubed a gun before initial firing (although all I do with revolvers is check the chambers and barrel, and swab them out if needed.)
 
AWA said:
It would NOT FIRE randomly throught out a clip of ammo.
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Well, there's your problem...these guns do not use clips. Try magazines instead. :D



AWA said:
Would anyone let there Spouse carry a gun that will not fire anytime the trigger is pulled to protect themselves and your children.. I believe I will get a big "NO" as the answer from everyone.
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No...but I would also have the manufacturer check the gun to see if it needed repair, especially if it was a gun that was reputed to be generally very reliable, and if the manufacturer had a general reputation for good customer service. If after the manufacturer checked the gun and it still didn't work reliably, then I would get rid of it. Despite their reputation, Glocks are not perfect...read Glock Talk, and you'll see.

The thing is, no matter what brand you buy, there is a chance than an individual gun will have a problem. That is true for cars, boats, TVs, refrigerators, or any other machine that you can buy.

At the end of the day, though, it is your decision...do what makes you feel good and secure. :)
 
If that would have happened with my SD9VE I would have sent it back to S&W to give them a chance to fix it. If they wouldn't/couldn't fix it I would have got rid of it too and got me a SIG SP2022. It's less than a Glock, got the DA/SA trigger and the "To Hell And Back" reliability. If you shop around you can get the TacPac for the price of a Glock and will have the gun, spare mag, holster, mag-loader and a light/laser in the case.
IMHO that's the second best deal right after the SDVE.
 
AWA said:
Gun was cleaned before it went to the range. It would NOT FIRE randomly throught out a clip of ammo. Not always the third shot or fourth, but sometimes two or three times in a row. You could let off of the trigger and it would fire the second pull. Let me ask something. Would anyone let there Spouse carry a gun that will not fire anytime the trigger is pulled to protect themselves and your children.. I believe I will get a big "NO" as the answer from everyone. We liked the gun BUT. I WILL NOT HAVE OR KEEP A GUN THAT JAMS MISSFIRES OR WILL NOTFIRE EVERYTIME THE TRIGGER IS PULLED. That is suicide!! I LOVE my Smith revolver, but am going to go with a Glock for Autos.
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I don't think anyone suggested you should depend on a firearm you are not confident in.
You did not say the gun was new ? Was it ?
If you can take it back , I have never heard of that , at this point I think you should & get one you are confident in.
 
If you are not comfortable with that tool, send it back.
When you think Mediaware is better than it is probably better for you.
I have send Guns back for less and only I didn't like how its feels in my hand.

So don't worry. Send it back and forget about it.
 
The one thing I've learned over the years is that once you've lost confidence in a machine, be it a car, a gun, a bike, or a can opener, you never get it back. No matter what happens, in the back of your mind, you'll be waiting for it to fail.

Replace it. If a Glock serves your needs better, by all means, make it a Glock. Its a shame it turned out that way. Most of the SDs I've heard of are excellent. But there are always those in which the tolerances are ALL off. Those are useless.

Good luck, Glocks can be great guns. I hope you find a good one.
 
Steelhat said:
If they wouldn't/couldn't fix it I would have got rid of it too and got me a SIG SP2022.
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Yet there are plenty who slam the SP2022 guns...most of whom have never owned one, and don't like them because they have a polymer frame and are cheaper than metal SIGs. Personally, while I do like SIGs, I think the SP2022 is one of the best SIGs considering value and function. I have owned several metal-framed SIGs, and one SP2022, and if I was going to buy another SIG today, it would be the SP2022.
 
Most shops have a no return policy. So send it to Smith. It should work when its returned. Working like new guns sell for more money than any broken gun.
Nobody is asking you to keep it. Just exploring your future. If the people you bought it from takes it back, remember their name cause you will want to do business with them again. The seller should help you return the gun at least.
 
That's too bad.

Most folks have pretty flawless SDs, but with any mass produced product a few are bound to have problems.

I'd ship it to S&W, let them remedy it and take it from there. Same with new cars, I've had cars I bought new and had problems with them with less than 10k miles on the clock! These were reputable companies too...it happens.

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That's too bad. Anybody can get that lemon as it's just luck of the draw. I would at least take it back to the Gunshop and see what they can do for you in either having their gunsmith(if S&W qualified) to fix it (OR) have them to at least mail it off to warranty and have repaired by S&W.
Of course, your choice. Good luck.
 
I'm trying to envision what the problem could be? Do you know if the firing pin is being engaged and simply not being released when the trigger is pulled, or is the cycling of the slide failing to engage the firing pin at all?
 
Mostly a wheel gunner here; did my entire career with one with perfect satisfaction. Unfortunately it's not a revolver world anymore. The NYC motorcycle-car chase some time back satisfied me on that point.

I started out with 1911s over 50 years ago; have shot and instructed on all kinds of stuff. I still like a good 1911, but a good 9 with good loads is ok as pistols go. What I will NOT compromise on at all is RELIABILITY.

These days I'm using a Gen 4 Glock 19. My next favorite is a BHP that always works with anything for pleasure shooting.

Whatever it takes.
 
Kudos to Advanced Weapon Systems in Baton Rouge, La! We took the gun back to them and they checked it, it failed to engage the firing pin the 3rd time they tried to dry fire it. They took it back and sold me a Glock at a discounted Price. If you live in that area of the country go see them. They did me RIGHT!!
 
AWA said:
Kudos to Advanced Weapon Systems in Baton Rouge, La! We took the gun back to them and they checked it, it failed to engage the firing pin the 3rd time they tried to dry fire it. They took it back and sold me a Glock at a discounted Price. If you live in that area of the country go see them. They did me RIGHT!!
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Well done AWS. Its always good to see a business that treats its customers well.

Good luck with the Glock. They are fine guns. Which one did you get?
 
I got at 27 gen 4, and I gave my 23 to my wife. We are both happy
 
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