JcMack
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I believe one lives by my porch light. I Believe they're in my basement. I don't bother them they ain't messed with me. I'll try to take a pic of porch dude tonight. she's a bug killin machine.
Brown Widow Spiders
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I'm a pest control technician in California. I'm familiar with black widows and brown recluse spiders. not the brown widow. must be a mid-west thing....
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JcMack
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Looks like this. Not a brown recluse.
http://images.google.com/images?hl=...&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&ct=title&resnum=4
http://images.google.com/images?hl=...&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&ct=title&resnum=4
Texas Star
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Better read this, then. You've got 'em there, after all.
They are the same genus as the black widow, but a different species. Not to be confused with the brown recluse, a wholly different spider.
CISR: Brown Widow Spider
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84CJ
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I am not a spider loving kinda guy they creep me out pretty bad. When I saw brown widow I was thinking that would explain the huge brown spider I found at work. With a red hour glass. But that was not it. I found a very Brown spider that was shiny and slick with a red hour glass not orange. The thing was huge for a Widow. One day I'll find another and maybe figure it out.
By the way, A Male Black Widow is$very tiny. Pales in comparison to the female, and looks nothing like the female. He he barley a snack for her.
By the way, A Male Black Widow is$very tiny. Pales in comparison to the female, and looks nothing like the female. He he barley a snack for her.
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Mickey D
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Si, I'm familiar with these brown widows your speak of. The males are being terminated in turf wars in East LA.
BigRich315
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So what caliber/load is good for these things?
I've been battling enough spiders already without worrying about yet another species...
I've been battling enough spiders already without worrying about yet another species...
Last summer my shop was absolutely infested with those things. I had never seen them before but it didn't take rocket science to figure out an hourglass belly was bad news. Did some research and found out they were brown widows. I would open shop in the morning and go on the hunt, 1 morning killing over 30. That summer I killed well in excess of 100 of them. I still find 1 or 2 occasionally but thankfully it appears I did a fairly good job of wiping them out last year.
gunlovingirl
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Should NOT have clicked on link, should NOT have clicked on link.......
84CJ
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What little Reading I done on these things they are not as bad as the Black Widow. Some say less toxic some say more toxic but injects less venom, and not aggressive. No matter I wouldn't mess with them anyway.
unclefish
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I've got them in Cocoa, FL.
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JcMack
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After a 4-5 day stay, mine vamoosed from the porch light, so no pics. There's usually some in the basement but not as big.
scooter123
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Frankly, I would rather be bit by a Black or Brown Widow than a Brown recluse. Got bit by a Brown Recluse once sitting on a wood pile and got lucky. He tried to go through the back pocket on my Levi's and it was just a light hit of venom. So, after about 8 weeks the wound finally healed, however there were reoccuring eruptions once or twice a year for the next 12 years. Anyone curious about how nasty the Brown Recluse is, just search google for some images. However, fair warning, the bite can cause necrotizing faciaitis and the pics will gross you out.
As a consequence whenever I see a spyder I kill it. If it's a big spyder, I just might shoot it.
As a consequence whenever I see a spyder I kill it. If it's a big spyder, I just might shoot it.
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elcruisr
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Guess what, there's also a red widow!
red14
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Yep, Black, Brown and Red Widows. Along with the Brown Recluse, we got em' all in Florida. We are so proud.
Jim Shugart
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We had a forum member die of complications from a brown recluse bite a couple of years ago. IIRC his name was John Ward.
The bite became infected with MRSA and he developed septic shock. He was gradually recovering when he aspirated a nutritional supplement and developed aspiration pneumonia.
All of this took several months.
The spiders aren't aggressive. Their bites contain enzymes for digesting their prey. Most of the time you don't even feel the bite, you just get a sore that keeps getting larger and larger as the enzymes do their thing.
I hate f'n spiders.
- Jim
The bite became infected with MRSA and he developed septic shock. He was gradually recovering when he aspirated a nutritional supplement and developed aspiration pneumonia.
All of this took several months.
The spiders aren't aggressive. Their bites contain enzymes for digesting their prey. Most of the time you don't even feel the bite, you just get a sore that keeps getting larger and larger as the enzymes do their thing.
I hate f'n spiders.
- Jim
Bullseye 2620
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Brown recluses are no joke. A leg wound caused by one of these took three years to totally healand left a permanent crater. Now, when I sleep in Forest Service cabins, I make darn sure to check for the presence of these guys, and other eight-legged critters.
Found a bunch of these guys in the garden. Anyone have a name for them?
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dlstewart01
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The Brown Recluse pictures are the exceptions, The really bad ones. I got bit by one 2 years ago. Had a small open sore on the back of my leg. Took it about a month to 6 weeks to heal. Never got bigger than 3/8 inch. It did leave a small brown spot there.
The Doctor who specializes in Spider bites at Vanderbilt Hospital told me that for every one that rots out a big place and gets nasty, there are 30 like mine. Not all of them cause trouble.
Also there is no anti-venom. I just took antibiotics to keep down infection.
The Doctor who specializes in Spider bites at Vanderbilt Hospital told me that for every one that rots out a big place and gets nasty, there are 30 like mine. Not all of them cause trouble.
Also there is no anti-venom. I just took antibiotics to keep down infection.
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gunlovingirl
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Yep, a garden spider. Have a friend in West Va that emailed me a pic of one that was on the side of her foundation in her flower bed. The thing was huge! I've seen a lot of them, but this one was a mutant or something. She had a neighbor come over to kill it, but he told her they are good spiders and to just leave it be. (I think he was afraid to get near it!) Speaking of Black Widows (someone was), back when I was small, my Dad was bitten by a Black Widow. He was very sick for a couple days, but thankfully he went to the Dr right away. I also saw a friend who works in a pharmacy recently. I asked her why I hadn't seen her at work lately, and she explained she was bitten by a Brown Recluse. It got her on the leg, and she said she has a hole in her leg now, and was walking with a limp. And people laugh about me being afraid of spiders!
BarbC
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I won't laugh! I hate them too!
There was one over the bathroom door last week, blocking my way. I yelled for my husband to come get it and he wouldn't, so I had to go get the vacuum and get rid of it myself. I said, "Why didn't you come get the spider?" He said, "You chase off a bear with a .380 but you won't get a spider. I don't get it." Well, because spiders are creepy!
Bullseye 2620
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Yes, they do weave beautiful webs. Now, if I could only interest them in eating the Japanese beetles that played havoc with my roses this summer. . .
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When she was 16, my daughter was bitten on the leg by a "brown spider". It got away,, so ID was questionable.
I took her to the emergency room, where a young doc who was thrilled to see her (she's very pretty) took quite awhile talking to her. His obvious admiration of her eased her concern, which was amusing after she recovered.
A weal did form, but he put something on it and it was gone in a few days. Never did open and oooze, etc. Like a bad mosquito bite. She was very concerned that a recluse bite might leave her leg looking bad.
This was probably some relatively innocuous spider, but they're all venomous, and may cause some local reaction.
I'd hate to be bitten by a big wolf or garden spider, and some of those things move very fast on a floor. I stomped a couple while in an outdoor spa at a rich client's home. They give me the creeps.
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I took her to the emergency room, where a young doc who was thrilled to see her (she's very pretty) took quite awhile talking to her. His obvious admiration of her eased her concern, which was amusing after she recovered.
A weal did form, but he put something on it and it was gone in a few days. Never did open and oooze, etc. Like a bad mosquito bite. She was very concerned that a recluse bite might leave her leg looking bad.
This was probably some relatively innocuous spider, but they're all venomous, and may cause some local reaction.
I'd hate to be bitten by a big wolf or garden spider, and some of those things move very fast on a floor. I stomped a couple while in an outdoor spa at a rich client's home. They give me the creeps.
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Bassamatic
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We had a forum member die of complications from a brown recluse bite a couple of years ago. IIRC his name was John Ward.
The bite became infected with MRSA and he developed septic shock. He was gradually recovering when he aspirated a nutritional supplement and developed aspiration pneumonia.
All of this took several months.
The spiders aren't aggressive. Their bites contain enzymes for digesting their prey. Most of the time you don't even feel the bite, you just get a sore that keeps getting larger and larger as the enzymes do their thing.
I hate f'n spiders.
- Jim
Jim, I remember that very well. He posted about his progress for some time and then it seems that he died almost overnight from those complications. For some reason that will always be with me. I never knew the man outside the forum.
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JcMack
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Quote: "I'd hate to be bitten by a big wolf or garden spider, and some of those things move very fast on a floor. I stomped a couple while in an outdoor spa at a rich client's home. They give me the creeps."
They are probably a brand of centipedes called "fire brats". I've got those also.. I've got a damp unfinished basement. It's an insect battleground down there. I took proactive action this year and put a bunch of those sticky boards boards around the basement perimeter. Along with some bug spray. I caught a bumpercrop of bugs on those boards. This whole area was a wetland/swamp a thousand years ago. I remember it. Oh yeah,,I've got a 11 year old pet Tarantula. The females can live 20+ years.
They are probably a brand of centipedes called "fire brats". I've got those also.. I've got a damp unfinished basement. It's an insect battleground down there. I took proactive action this year and put a bunch of those sticky boards boards around the basement perimeter. Along with some bug spray. I caught a bumpercrop of bugs on those boards. This whole area was a wetland/swamp a thousand years ago. I remember it. Oh yeah,,I've got a 11 year old pet Tarantula. The females can live 20+ years.
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