Browning 22 rifles?

I've owned a few of them in the past but ended up passing them on. $599
seems too high. My experience was as stated above, the barrel nut had
to be snugged up often. They have to be kept clean. If fouling builds up
they start to misfire in my experience. Neat well made rifles but have
their quirks.
 
I’ve owned a few Brownings over the years, they’re fun guns. Compared to newer .22 models, they’re slower to load with the tube magazine.

I’ve gotten smoking deals on some of them and haven’t looked at prices for a while.

If you’d like something slightly larger look for a Remington 241. Browning and FN couldn’t come to terms on royalties, so Browning approached Remington. Long story short, some one at Browning sealed the deal, (John died in 1926,) and the SA-22 eventually became the Remington 241 in 1935. (The FN Auto-5 shotgun became the Remington 11.)

Here’s a photo of my 1935 Remington 241 and the more petite, and “newer” 1965 Browning SA-22.

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The FN Semi Auto 22 (SA 22) that was JMB design was built by FN starting in 1914. Bad timing with WW1 starting. But FN did not call it the Browning SA-22. It was the FN SA-22,,Browning's Patent.
The little rifle was NOT exported to the USA for sale, though some undoubtedly found their way here.
(The same thing happened with FN's little 22 pump rifle of the same period.)

What did happen is an agreement was reached betw FN and Remington Arms to produce a near identical edition at Remington Arms in Illion starting in 1919.
The Model 24 was for USA and North American sales, a market that FN agreed not to enter with the Model FN SA-22.
This type of agreement had been settled upon before in the production and sale of the Remington Model 8 & nearly identical FN Model 1900 rifle.
Browning, Colt and FN had the agreement on the production and sale of a couple of the semi auto pistol designs also.

The Remington 24 was only slightly different from the SA-22. The Bbl TD system being the most noticable. The frames are different in size and there are small changes in the ejector and extractor.

The Model 24 was made till 1935 IIRC. At that time Remington re-did all of their rifles with heftier stocks and a few other small changes in sights, etc.
All of the Model #'s got a '1' added to them.
The 24 became the 241,,,The Model 8 became the 81,,The Model 14 became the 141,,
The 241 was made till 1949 or 1950.

Back to the FN SA-22.
None were imported for commercial sale in the USA till Browning Firearms Co was established in the USA in the mid 1950's.

The FN SA-22 that was made for export and sale in the USA became the 'Browning .22 Semi Auto Rifle' / Made in Belgium by FN.
People always called them Brownings and many thought that they were made by Browning.
(The Model 1910 FN 32 and 380cal pistol was renamed the Browning Model 1955 at that time too and was imported and sold as such.)

So the FN made SA-22 rifle started coming into the USA just a couple years after Remington stopped production of the Model 241.

Everyone was happy I guess in the corporate world of guns. Gentleman's agreements were still alive.

The SA-22 was FN made till about 1974. Since then they had been made in Japan (Miroku ?).
The older FN made guns get a value premium in the collector playground.
The Japanese made version shoots and functions just as well.
Even the Norinco guns work pretty well but are crude in their machining and finishing when comparing. The price reflected that up front so it was no secret.
 
John M Browning design

Yep, I too lusted for one in the 1950s.
Seems Remington had the rights here, ca. 1912, Model 24, then enlarged it as stated to Model 241. I bought one of those in .22 short last year. Wear short sleeves, less little hot brass enters a cuff from the bottom ejector.
Browning brought them from Belgium in the mid-50s after Remington discontinued theirs.
Buddy picked up a Norinco for about half of a real one, and it seems to be fine, in 22LR only.
Yes, some were grooved for scopes, not that I want one scoped.
Got my original 550I for that.
Great fun!
 
People tend not to give a .22 it's real worth since it is only...a .22.
If made in Belgium,these are very well made and worth a lot both in money and shooting pleasure.I don't write this kind of comment about the guns I don't/didn't own.And this one I've got very good past experience with.
 
I have the Miroku lever action BL-22. Great little plinking gun. The semi auto is also a great gun. I've only shot the Belgian made versions, but based on my experience, Miroku is very high quality as well.
 
Inherited a Belgium made one from my grandfather, mint condition with original manual and all. Didn't like the bottom eject. And it liked to shave the tips off the lead, building up little chips of lead in the reciever , I traded it to lgs for new 686p, and a new glock 17 , and $200. Never regreated that trade.
 
I've got 2. One in .22 LR (darker wood below) and the other in .22 Short (lighter wood below). Both Belgium made.
The LR is a tack driver. Just keep it lubed and it will keep running. The Short is OK accuracy. Better than a lot of rifles but not as accurate as the LR.
 

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I have the Miroku lever action BL-22. Great little plinking gun. The semi auto is also a great gun. I've only shot the Belgian made versions, but based on my experience, Miroku is very high quality as well.
It wouldn’t surprise me if the Japanese guns were actually better made.
 
Mine is the Belgian made .22SA..With CCI Stinger 22LR's (1640 fps) it's a fine gun for racoons, and of course rabbits and squirrels.

Been told the MIROKU is just as good as the originals if not better. Plus a new MIROKU wouldn't be possibly all beat up from use. It would be yours to do that!!!!


Also, if you can find one, the Belgian did make a .22 SA in .22 short...But most are the .22 LR ones.

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I have an old Belgian wheel sight gun and it is one of my two favorites (the other is a 1949 Winchester 75 Sporter). The first time I shot one of those rifles was about 55 years ago. I was shooting for a Boy Scout marksmanship merit badge and one of the counselors had me using his. I loved it as soon as I picked it up, even though it did have a habit of shucking its empties up my shirtsleeve. I wanted one for years. A friend of mine decided he could part with his about 15 years ago and I grabbed it. Terrific small game gun, unfailing reliability, and the slimmest, sleekest little .22 I ever used. I never owned a Miroku rifle but I hear they’re good too. I wouldn’t be without mine!
 
I love the SA22, but have never been at the right place at the right time with the correct amount of money!

I do, however, have a BL22. It's my "showing-off" .22. It shoots great, and is my favorite .22 rifle.

Here it is with a Model 94. Interesting thing about them is that the 94 was designed by Browning, but doesn't carry his name. The BL22 has his name, but was designed by someone else.
 

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Just found this vintage ad:

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“A RUGGED COMPACT FOR MEN OF ACTION”

I love it!! :D Just what the doctor ordered! I’m getting one and getting a scope, too! Then I’ll need one of them cases!
 
This picture of the creator holding his creation, it’s awe inspiring and tells you all you need to know about the little semi auto 22.

John Browning was reputed to be very proud of this particular invention of his. The photo you show has been widely reproduced, but the negative was flipped when it was originally printed. He was right handed, and the loading slot has always been on the right side of the stock. Here is the way it should appear:

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This is my own personal sample of the breed - nothing special, it's a "Grade I" that I picked up in 1997. Used ones are a bit hard to find, as most of their owners aren't very willing to let them go. I was lucky. I've found it to be very reliable and easy to pack. It's a real classic, and I devoted a chapter to it in my book 101 Classic Firearms, as it has a very interesting history.

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Lesser known is its American cousin, the Remington 241. I also have one of these. I was one of those who didn't know they even existed until I ran across one at a gun show. It's fully as accurate and reliable as the Belgian-made guns.

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Here's a close-up picture of the Remington's receiver. I was pleased to discover that was made in my birth year, 1939. I recently wrote an article on it for the Blue Press.

John

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(Click on it for a larger view)
 
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