Browning Hi-Power as a carry gun

[Double-O-Dave]

How about a nice Belgian Police contract alloy-framed Hi Power?
Bob

Bob: Aren't they (alloy framed HPs) rare?

Thanks,

Dave

 

[OIF2]

Bob: Aren't they (alloy framed HPs) rare?

Thanks,

Dave

Yes, they are. I believe the Austrian Border Patrol and Belgian Police wanted something lighter and FN came up with this. A few have been imported lately, some heavily used. I would imagine that in a couple or so years a really nice one, unaltered, would command a premium. All Hi Powers are rising in value now.
Bob

 

[sub-moa]

That's one good looking alloy Bob

 

[sub-moa]

Time for one more, plain Jane MkIII

 

[sub-moa]

Feel free to choose that which works best for you my friend...if point and click is your preference, point and click away, with no argument from this quarter

Allow me to suggest...to those who are unaware that is , manipulation of a BHP MkII/MkIII or after market thumb safety is a simple skill which, once learned through just a bit of repetition, becomes as close to natural as nature allows. Such manipulation then is not a time consuming "extra step" as some folks might opine

 

[sub-moa]

And, another...

FN...Herstal built, ex-Argentine Internal Security

 

[OIF2]

And, another...

FN...Herstal built, ex-Argentine Internal Security

Let's see...ring hammer, internal extractor, early 60's production, mint shape. THAT'S what I'm talking about!
Bob

 

[cwo4uscgret]

hmmm

Hi:
Most any modern 9mm JHP will get the problem solved.
I like the BHP However I prefer a sidearm that allows "Draw, Point, Shoot" such as a DA Revolver or a Glock type semi-auto. In a worst case sceniro (sic) I don't want to thumb off a safety, cock a hammer, or jack a round in the chamber.

Jimmy - I practice, practice, practice. As I draw I release the safety and as I bring the gun up to "battery" and acquire the target then my trigger finger enters the trigger guard - after I have acquired the target. I do this with my 1911s and am beginning to practice with the High Power.

 

[rwsmith]

Firestorm??

Man, if you are up toting that around, my hat is off to you!!!

 

[sub-moa]

Alright, one more...Plain Jane '89 Sport

 

[sub-moa]

Ok, let's bump this up again ...

My pistol, a NIP (unfired since factory, original hardened/yellowed shipping grease still inside) 1980 Nickle . Auction pic , don't own a lot of leopard print stuff myself ...

 

[sub-moa]

BTT with a NIB PJK-9HP

 

[VMaxSplat]

As a rookie policeman in Cincinnati mid 60's the only semi auto's you ever saw in police service were the L&N rail Railroad detectives assigned to the Eastern Ky. branch of the L&N. The EK branch took in Revanna, and Hazard Ky. A very rough place in the 60's. The coal miners would go out on strike, their attitude was that the RR's were part of the coal operators. Only somewhat true. The EK branch at the time had two of the highest RR trestles in the country. Miners were knowledgeable with dynamite.... Not a good combination if you are a RR crewman. RR detectives had to ride and check those trestles during coal outages or problems between small independents and the large coal operators.
The RR detectives were about as popular as the revenuers in eastern Ky. Needless to say not popular at all. The detectives had a lot of authority in each state the main line or feeder lines were located in. Most of them carried BHP's an occasional 1911, and once in a while you would see the new S&W 39. Sometime we would go to Covington Ky. to shoot and we would see them there and watch them shoot..Generally pretty good shots....Their stories of Eastern Ky. were always colorful and somewhat true. They had some influence with us young cops and we started to shoot BHP's just for fun. I have loved them ever since.

As an industrial history (mining, railroads, iron/steel) geek and former BHP owner, I really enjoyed your post! Last year I attended the L&N RR historical society convention in KY. It was a blast (shoulda brought me a BHP along ).

The BHP is a fine pistol. I miss not owning one and may need to rectify that at some point.

 

[rmbrad]

This isn't a Browning, but a Bulgarian clone. This is the sidearm for their military and police. This is the Arcus 98 DAC. It is imported by Century Arms. this is the compact and has a 4" barrel. It can be carried cocked and locked, or hammer down double action for the first shot. It is close enough to the Browning that some parts interchange like the magazines. I have run around 500 various rounds through this gun and haven't had a failure. I like it.

 

[sub-moa]

We get it Jimmy, a S/A auto is too complicated for you as an "emergency weapon", fine...



You said so in post 51. post 72, post 135, tonight in post 146...and 5 minutes later, in post 147...



We get it, thanks...

 

[badge]

Jimmy,
I tend to agree with you in the draw and shoot area,....... but, with training, alot of training it does become second nature. But, if you aint comfortable then it is a smart move to go with point and shoot.

 

[OIF2]

We get it Jimmy, a S/A auto is too complicated for you as an "emergency weapon", fine...



You said so in post 51. post 72, post 135, tonight in post 146...and 5 minutes later, in post 147...



We get it, thanks...

He just needs to practice that Israeli draw and chamber thing. Looks kinda goofy, but it IS really safe, I guess...
Bob

 

[OIF2]

A nice one from, I think, Don Williams. It is an FN-marked Belgian. Stocks are Spegels in Delrin. This one belongs to a Border Patrol buddy who also has a weakness for BHPs.
Bob

 

[OIF2]

Favored by the British Parachute Regiment, as well as the SAS...now superseded by the SIG 226 (with the SAS and the Paras), but quite a few BHPs are still around, serving Queen and Country.
Bob

 

[45Wheelgun]

Surprised no one has shown one of these:

 

[sub-moa]

VERY nice .40 your USBP buddy has there Bob, my compliments...

AND, of-course that T you had done up by your wrench there outside Bragg...I never tire of eyeball fondling that

 

[sub-moa]

Surprised no one has shown one of these:

Well, you've sure taken care of that oversight now Dave...THANKS

I've got an '81, what year's that beauty?

 

[sipowicz]

Here it is in a case with my other favorite 9mm....I used to have both but sold my P7 when I lost part of my middle finger...I tried another one recently and was able to squeeze it just fine...maybe I will try and get mine back....

Bodyguard, The (1992) - Internet Movie Firearms Database - Guns in Movies, TV and Video Games

 

[sub-moa]

Here's my '81 GP Dave

 

[PALADIN85020]

Here it is in a case with my other favorite 9mm....I used to have both but sold my P7 when I lost part of my middle finger...I tried another one recently and was able to squeeze it just fine...maybe I will try and get mine back....

Bodyguard, The (1992) - Internet Movie Firearms Database - Guns in Movies, TV and Video Games

Sip,

Sorry to learn about your middle finger. Forgive me, but immediately I thought "How does he get through rush hour traffic without all of it?"

John

 

[Brainbox]

I still carry a BHP as my duty weapon. It's old but it works!


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[sub-moa]

Extremely interesting , thanks for posting!

I don't suppose you could post a pic of your High Power could you?

Or at least:

Is it FN, Browning, FEG or Kareen?

If FN/Browning, is it an Olde School Classic, a MkII, a MkIII...or hybrid?

How do you carry it, Condition 1 or Condition 3?

What holster do you currently use?

Sorry for the barrage of questions, but it's good to hear of Police Officers still using this classsic...but practical pistol for duty purposes.

When last working in Israel ('11), it seemed the switch to the IMI 941 was pretty universal, except for...well, except for those using the G17 .

Thanks in advance and Be Safe Out There!

 

[Brainbox]

My issued hi-power is made by FN, in fact, they are called FN's in Israel. If you said browning or hi-power to someone, they wouldn't know what you're talking about!

Most officers are issued the stainless steel Jericho as you know, with additional Glocks issued to some officers and special units such as ant-terrorist police (Yamam).

Some officers opt for the lighter FN and quite a few are still seen around.

Holsters are polymer, made by a company called imidefence. These are only for the Glocks and Jericho. They are stamped with a white Israel Police symbol. The FN comes with a locally made leather holster of questionable quality!

Sgt. D


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[Brainbox]

As to carry, the Israeli system is to carry with no bullet in the chamber and no use of safety. Pistol is drawn, raised to chest 90 degrees from shooting position. Weak hand holds the slide and strong hand "pushes" pistol forward whilst rotating to shooting position.


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[badge]

Brainbox,
Just out of curiocity. Do you find that method of carry to be a detriment? Here in the states no civilian police agency that I know of carries a single action semi auto that way as it would seem to time consumig to bring into action. I'm sure you are well trained in tha manner to do so but I am curious as when I did carry a BHP as a duty weapon in the late 70's it was strictly cocked and locked.