Bubba done fixed this one...

[Gunsquirrel]

This is what I am dealing with, Bubba "fixed" this King Cockeyed hammer on an Outdoorsman that I am going to restore. Thank God he didn't have his big hammer with him that day!!!

Also, previous owner modified the gun to single action only so I am in need of either a sear and spring/pin or a complete pre war hammer...the quest continues...

Steelslaver, I tried to send this to you by way of a PM but it won't let me post the pictures!

 

[steelslaver]

Not only should he keep his hands of guns, but also welders. Was probably broken anyway. A pity as I don't imagine a king hammer is easy to find. But isn't that a high speed hammer or did King make them that way for the earlier guns

 

[Greyman50]

Anyone that would do that should have their right hand secured in a 6” vice, then secured until they can’t use their fingers……

 

[tom2]

Some WW2 Victory model hammers are often seen for sale on the auction site. Would that work on a prewar gun? The thing is they have the typical high thumbpiece so it would not be as nice as that hammer for cocking.

 

[steelslaver]

A an Outdoorsman is an N frame a K frame victory or other would not work.

Does anyone know for sure that a 1817 hammer would?

 

[flundertaker]

I hate Bubba......

 

[Green Frog]

A an Outdoorsman is an N frame a K frame victory or other would not work.

Does anyone know for sure that a 1817 hammer would?

A 1917 hammer would probably work. I’m not sure mssrs Smith and Wesson made hammers in 1817. Seriously, there used to be lots of surplus hammers for the 1917, but alas, they’re disappearing too. It looks like King did his usual professional job on the “Cockeyed” hammer before Billy Bob took it to Bubba’s House of Guns for “improvement”. Sad!

 

[Retired W4]

Joe, I just checked my S prefix 1917, which was built post war from parts S&W bought back from the Army. I believe these prewar hammers will work in your gun. The real difference between my gun and a regular 1917 is the post war guns had the sliding hammer block fitted (S prefix). Obviously a King cockeyed hammer would be best, but good luck finding one of those for sale.

Someone help old Gunsquirrel get that target gun running DA.

 

[LVSteve]

I hate Bubba......

Me too. As a milsurp guy I am horrified at the number of rare guns that fall into bubba's hands.

 

[chief38]

I just hope you paid next to nothing for it!

 

[Marshal Tom]

Explain the Cockeyed Hammer please. I have read about them over the years but never knew what the purpose or advantage was!

 

[Sistema1927]

WE used to sing about Jodie. Bubba is his first cousin.

 

[steelslaver]

Jodie messes with your woman, Bubba your gun

 

[Gunsquirrel]

Steelslaver,
Here is what it looks like on the interior...

 

[steelslaver]

That is the first style of hammer block mounted on your side plate

 

[1R90]

Looks like someone named Bubba broke the 'cockeyed' part off and tried to weld on a replacement from a Colt Python.

Here's an old thread where they welded and checkered a replacement piece, hope it's helpful:
https://smith-wessonforum.com/137545913-post1.html

 

[Mike SC Hunter]

Mebbe is wasn't bubba.........Mebbe it was a shooter/owner fixed it up the way he liked it............Ever thought of that?

 

[T44spl]

Bubba should just stick to Shrimp, and leave the guns alone...

 

[steelslaver]

Mebbe is wasn't bubba.........Mebbe it was a shooter/owner fixed it up the way he liked it............Ever thought of that?

Only if leaving a lump of weld with filled with porosity and arc marks along the edge of the hammer body was just the way he liked it

 

[Sistema1927]

Jodie messes with your woman, Bubba your gun

Don't forget your Cadillac.