You cannot draw on a guy who is 6 ft of you unless heis crawling towards you.
BUGs how many carry them?
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petemacmahon
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Not yet.....anyway
I actually never have, despite being a CC person since ~1990. Most of the time I have my trusty old 442 along with a total of 10 rounds on my person.
Oh, to the folks that live in CA - why on earth do you stay?! It seems every day I learn of yet another way they are like the old USSR. I could never live under such draconian and idiotic laws. Years ago, when I was loosing my job in TN and my wife was home doing my job search on the internet, I gave her specific instructions not to even bother looking for a job in any state that is anti 2nd amendment and did not allow CC. Being originally from PA, she wanted to move back. I told her under no circumstances would I interview for, or even mildly consider taking a, job in NY or NJ or MA or CT or MD, etc - no matter what the salary was!
I actually never have, despite being a CC person since ~1990. Most of the time I have my trusty old 442 along with a total of 10 rounds on my person.
Oh, to the folks that live in CA - why on earth do you stay?! It seems every day I learn of yet another way they are like the old USSR. I could never live under such draconian and idiotic laws. Years ago, when I was loosing my job in TN and my wife was home doing my job search on the internet, I gave her specific instructions not to even bother looking for a job in any state that is anti 2nd amendment and did not allow CC. Being originally from PA, she wanted to move back. I told her under no circumstances would I interview for, or even mildly consider taking a, job in NY or NJ or MA or CT or MD, etc - no matter what the salary was!
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Said it before, the only time I've ever carried two was in-country, an M-16 and 1911. Should things deteriorate to that point here, that will be my battery again. In the meantime, one gun, one spare mag, two speed strips if I've got a wheelgun, and a Kershaw Blur assisted opener. If that ain't enough, sux to be me.
Sure you can.
Ya you can.........but unless you're....... Matt Dillon....
Shoot him in the foot.....
shoot him in the knee.........
shoot him in the...... well you know..........
shoot him in the ........gut................................
Come on guys. Don't you do more than just punch holes in paper? 
Empty hand skills and movement. Look it up. Or watch this.
This ain't no joke. It's something everyone should learn to do.
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Empty hand skills and movement. Look it up. Or watch this.
This ain't no joke. It's something everyone should learn to do.
[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwHYRBNc9r8[/ame]
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Speaking of balanced, that was part of my rationale when in uniform. The M28 on my belt made me list to starboard without the BUG on my port ankle.
I often carry a J Frame on my ankle as a backup. It is not likely that I would ever need it; however, if I use that logic as a reason not to take it, then I would not be carrying a weapon at all, because it is unlikely I will ever need my primary carry weapon either. The same reasoning (better safe than sorry) that motivates me to carry a CCW is the same reasoning that motivates me to carry a backup. There are situations that make it impractical, but in times when it is easy to do, why not do it?
Let me get within 6 ft of you and lets see of you can pop out a gun. My one arm is almost 3ft.
10mmauto
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I'm not sure what that has to do with things. Stuff happens.
It only takes one.
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As usual, you don't get it.
Anyone that would try to stand there and draw while their attacker is six feet away is a fool.
You talk a good game but you really don't know what you're talking about. Either that or you simply can't comprehend.
will527
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Due to a rapid increase in crime in our nuclear city, whenever I have business within the city I now carry a backup revolver. It is a 3" 621-1 44 magnum in my front pocket. My principal weapon is one of several, a Sig p226, a Kimber Desert Warrior, or one of my six Glock model 22's. The 629-1 is a sweet weapon. I bought it around 1985 or so, and the dealer said not many were made.
Youre clueless. What do you think ive been stating. Whatever though as usual you always know best.
If you just stand there still like a deer in headlights, one hopefully would be reactive & be on the move to keep distance.
Have you seen the videos at 21 ft? If they cant escape.them and get a gun out I dont see how 6ft would meet with any better success
Steve_in_PA
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I'm a LEO and carry a BUG, both on and off-duty. If a non-LEO said he doesn't carry a BUG, I'd be asking why not?
When off-duty, my primary carry is a Glock 26 in a OWB holster and a S&W 642 in an ankle holster. If I'm wearing shorts, the 642 goes in a pocket holster on my support side. If I'm wearing a tucked in shirt, the 642 goes in my strong side front pocket and the G-26 goes in an ankle holster.
Also, claiming you'll never need a second gun is like saying you'll never need a reload...........until you need it. Why drive a vehicle without a spare tire? In the last 25 years, I've never had a flat tire, but I would not drive a vehicle without a spare tire.
Carrying a BUG is not all about my safety, rather it's about being able to give that firearm to someone who isn't carrying in a SHTF situation. An example would be giving it to my wife who doesn't carry all the time.
When off-duty, my primary carry is a Glock 26 in a OWB holster and a S&W 642 in an ankle holster. If I'm wearing shorts, the 642 goes in a pocket holster on my support side. If I'm wearing a tucked in shirt, the 642 goes in my strong side front pocket and the G-26 goes in an ankle holster.
Also, claiming you'll never need a second gun is like saying you'll never need a reload...........until you need it. Why drive a vehicle without a spare tire? In the last 25 years, I've never had a flat tire, but I would not drive a vehicle without a spare tire.
Carrying a BUG is not all about my safety, rather it's about being able to give that firearm to someone who isn't carrying in a SHTF situation. An example would be giving it to my wife who doesn't carry all the time.
This isn't much of a post,.....I'm sick. More like a listing of random thoughts.
I like the idea of having a BUG to hand off to an unarmed partner or maybe someone I feel a need to protect. "Hunker down here,......I'm going for help." That's not much of an option without the BUG.
Ever had a floorplate dislodged and spill your load over the ground? I have. A spare mag will probably help, but only if you can get the empty removed from the well. They don't come out nearly as easily with no guts and no floorplate to grab hold of. I once needed a pair of needlenose pliers to get a mag body removed, but I don't generally carry a pair with me.
I've also had a primer back out and tie up a gun. Once it became an intermittent problem for quite some time until it was discovered. The gun would work fine,.......until it wouldn't.
I like to carry a 642. I think it's an 'almost' perfect revolver, but I'm wondering how to handle a cratered primer that ties it up. I've had that happen a couple of times on other revolvers and the only thing that cleared the problem was the leverage I could exert on the exposed hammer spur and the comtrol that the spur gave me. I was able to shear that little bit of primer off and get the gun functioning again, but I wouldn't have been able to do it with trigger pressure alone and having the exposed hammer also let me do it without wildly discharging a shot. The 642 would need a bench to get going again.
A similar thing can happen if recoil causes a round to pull loose in the chamber and prevent the cylinder from rotating. Hasn't happened to me(yet), but it has happened to someone while I was there.
I wonder if George Zimmerman carries a BUG. He wasn't carrying one that night a couple of years ago and as it turned out, he didn't need one,......but it was close. He got pounced in the dark and ended up flat on his back with a guy on top of him beating him to a pulp. He was lucky he was able to access his holstered weapon. Had he been lying on the gun or had his right arm pinned he wouldn't have been able to get off the one shot that he needed. Fortunately, that one shot was enough because the gun jammed after firing, getting tied up in clothing. Lucky for George it didn't just click being shoved up into his attacker like it was,............tap, rack, bang is difficult to accomplish in that situation. Maybe a BUG in an offhand pocket or ankle holster IS a good idea.
I like the idea of having a BUG to hand off to an unarmed partner or maybe someone I feel a need to protect. "Hunker down here,......I'm going for help." That's not much of an option without the BUG.
Ever had a floorplate dislodged and spill your load over the ground? I have. A spare mag will probably help, but only if you can get the empty removed from the well. They don't come out nearly as easily with no guts and no floorplate to grab hold of. I once needed a pair of needlenose pliers to get a mag body removed, but I don't generally carry a pair with me.
I've also had a primer back out and tie up a gun. Once it became an intermittent problem for quite some time until it was discovered. The gun would work fine,.......until it wouldn't.
I like to carry a 642. I think it's an 'almost' perfect revolver, but I'm wondering how to handle a cratered primer that ties it up. I've had that happen a couple of times on other revolvers and the only thing that cleared the problem was the leverage I could exert on the exposed hammer spur and the comtrol that the spur gave me. I was able to shear that little bit of primer off and get the gun functioning again, but I wouldn't have been able to do it with trigger pressure alone and having the exposed hammer also let me do it without wildly discharging a shot. The 642 would need a bench to get going again.
A similar thing can happen if recoil causes a round to pull loose in the chamber and prevent the cylinder from rotating. Hasn't happened to me(yet), but it has happened to someone while I was there.
I wonder if George Zimmerman carries a BUG. He wasn't carrying one that night a couple of years ago and as it turned out, he didn't need one,......but it was close. He got pounced in the dark and ended up flat on his back with a guy on top of him beating him to a pulp. He was lucky he was able to access his holstered weapon. Had he been lying on the gun or had his right arm pinned he wouldn't have been able to get off the one shot that he needed. Fortunately, that one shot was enough because the gun jammed after firing, getting tied up in clothing. Lucky for George it didn't just click being shoved up into his attacker like it was,............tap, rack, bang is difficult to accomplish in that situation. Maybe a BUG in an offhand pocket or ankle holster IS a good idea.
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Not typical of LEOs around here.
But it is typical of the sentiments expressed by Sarah Brady for over 30 years regarding handgun carry.
Old TexMex
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I am amused at those who say "they've never had a problem" so that makes the chances of ever having a problem less.
I can't say that, because I have. so all the supercops and all the "21 ft rule" mall ninjas, please, do whatever they think is best, and leave the rest of us the hell alone.
I can't say that, because I have. so all the supercops and all the "21 ft rule" mall ninjas, please, do whatever they think is best, and leave the rest of us the hell alone.
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