Bullseye question: Two groups!?

[Ron H.]

Greetings, all:

What does it mean when you're getting two distinct groups on the target (one high, one center) when using the same ammo and point of aim?

I had this happen last night in casual slow fire practice at 25 yards. In each string, one group would be centered on the X ring, and the other would be centered on the 7 ring at 12 o'clock. I did this with both the .45 and the .22, so I'm pretty sure it's a "Ron problem" rather than a gun or ammo problem.

Any input would be appreciated.

Thanks, and Semper Fi.

Ron H.

 

[valkyriekl]

Sounds like a follow-through problem--possibly relaxing your grip too soon after the shot breaks (or you think the shot breaks), causing the gun to flip up a bit more during recoil before the bullet leaves the barrel.

Definitely happens with me and my revolvers, anyways. If I see this happening, I would stop live-fire and start dry-firing, and watch what the sights do. Once I get it to where the sights stay more-or-less where I had them when the trigger breaks, then I'd load up and continue shooting, taking care to hold the gun on-target all the way through the trigger squeeze until I hear the shot and feel the recoil (once those happen, the bullet is already well on its way downrange).

 

[HalfSwiss]

"Breaking wrist up", opposite of limp wristing. You are anticipating the recoil and contributing to it, so to speak.

 

[HalfSwiss]

Problem Analysis Pic

Hopefully this pic will upload OK. It uses a target to illustrate what your problem may be based on where you are grouping. This is for a right handed shooter. Sorry for it being slightly canted to the right.

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o269/jpcarlyle/DSCN0555.jpg

 

[moosedog]

It's something your doing, not the gun or ammo.
Consistancy is the key.
Alot of dry firing will help.

 

[TOM BECKWITH]

My problem was a lack of consistant grip from mag to mag. Tended to be more consistant with rapid fire than slow fire. Never was that great with either the 41 or the Victor - but varied from low/mid 90s to mid /high 80s

 

[yaktamer]

Hopefully this pic will upload OK. It uses a target to illustrate what your problem may be based on where you are grouping. This is for a right handed shooter.

Thanks! I've been racking my brain try figure out what I've been doing wrong with my 681. I was convinced it was a sight picture problem, but now I'm thinking it is a grip or amount of trigger finger problem (I've been gouping at about 8 o'clock).