Calif Shall Issue Bill Failed

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Calif Assembley Bill, A/B 357, would have made Calif a "Shall Issue" State failed in the Safety Committy.

Not a big surprise. Alameda County Sherriff was present pleading them not to pass it.

Hats off to Assembleyman Steve Knight for trying though.

Bob
 
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Good luck with that...
I'd move to CA, but can't justify making myself a criminal for doing what I love.
 
I didn't expect it to pass, but it was worth a try. We should do it regularly, maybe once a session. At least it would keep them busy so they wouldn't have as much time to work on their agenda.
 
Lee...

I vote against the "grain" so to speak. But not enough people do. It's too bad.

Our state is in a financal mess as well. Everyone here loves Bond Measures, as if it is free money. It's ashame.

Someday if I am able to retire, I will leave.

Best

Bob
 
Originally posted by Lee in Quartzsite:
People get what they vote for....why not vote the bums out? Maybe someday California will rejoin the USA and honor the Constitution.

Because this state contains two very large and very liberal voting blocks: San Francisco and Los Angeles. The rest of this state is left with no political power.
 
Originally posted by Lee in Quartzsite:
People get what they vote for....why not vote the bums out? Maybe someday California will rejoin the USA and honor the Constitution.

Don't hold your breath. The kook-to-normal ratio in California is much higher than in the rest of the world.
 
Yes, we are out numbered by liberal "air heads". I suspect we have a large number of Illegals voting as well.

Looking ahead to our next state election, our next Gov will probably be Diane Feinstein, Gavin Newsome ( current mayor of san fran ) or our state attorney gen, Jerry Brown.

Hopless.

Bob
 
Originally posted by BobsSmith:
..................... Diane Feinstein, Gavin Newsome ( current mayor of san fran ) or our state attorney gen, Jerry Brown.
Bob
Better known as Larry, Moe, and Curly?
 
I almost died of surprise.....
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Not knowing the states geography, (but unfortunately being all too familiar with a population center dragging an entire state around by it's nose!) what city is located in the county the sheriff was doing the lobbying, from?
 
Originally posted by Spotteddog:
Not knowing the states geography, (but unfortunately being all too familiar with a population center dragging an entire state around by it's nose!) what city is located in the county the sheriff was doing the lobbying, from?

Just outside of San Francisco.
 
(CALGUNS.NET) (The Calguns Foundation) - CA. For Immediate Release 05-05-2009.
SAF, CALGUNS FOUNDATION CHALLENGES CALIFORNIA HANDGUN BAN SCHEME


Read about it on Calguns.net here


BELLEVUE, WA and REDWOOD CITY, CA – The Second Amendment Foundation, The Calguns Foundation and three California residents today filed a lawsuit seeking to vindicate the right to bear arms against arbitrary state infringement.


Nearly all states allow qualified law-abiding citizens to carry guns for self-defense, but a few states allow local officials to arbitrarily decide who may exercise this core Second Amendment right. In the action filed today, Plaintiffs challenge the policies of two California Sheriffs, in Sacramento and Yolo counties, who reject the basic human right of self defense by refusing to issue ordinary people gun carry permits. Of course, violent criminals in the impacted counties continue to carry guns without police permission.


State scientist Deanna Sykes believes her sexual orientation and small stature makes her an appealing target for criminals, particularly as she often transports firearms as a competitive shooter and firearms instructor. “I am highly qualified to defend myself against the sort of crime that the Sheriff cannot, despite his best efforts, completely eradicate,” Sykes said. “Violent crime is a real risk in our society, but happily, we enjoy the right to defend ourselves from it.”


Andrew Witham has over 15 years experience as a police officer in Britain, and is licensed to carry a firearm while working as a private investigator and campus public safety officer. But despite having been the target of death threats stemming from his work in security, Sheriff John McGinness saw to it that Witham’s license to carry a gun while away from work was revoked upon Witham’s relocation to Sacramento.


“I’m allowed to defend other people,” said Witham, “so why can’t I defend myself, where the Bill of Rights guarantees me that right?”


Adam Richards, a Northern California attorney, would also exercise his right to bear arms in self- defense. But the Yolo County Sheriff’s policy on gun permit applications is: don’t bother. “How can the Sheriff tell whether I am capable of responsibly exercising my Second Amendment rights, when he doesn’t even acknowledge that these rights exist?”


Attorney Alan Gura, representing the plaintiffs in this case, said, “It’s a shame that these Sheriffs don’t think that self-defense is a ‘good cause’ to exercise the right to bear arms, but we’re confident the Second Amendment reflects a better policy.”


Added co-counsel Donald Kilmer, “The California carry licensing system is being abused by some officials who are hostile to self-defense rights. The police can regulate the carrying of guns, and that includes preventing dangerous people from being armed. Complete deprivation of the right to bear arms, however, is not an option under our Constitution.”


“The Supreme Court’s decision last year in the Heller case shows that there is both a right to keep arms and a right to bear arms,” said SAF founder Alan Gottlieb. “In most states, authorities do not deny a license to carry an operable firearm to any law-abiding applicant that completes training and a background check. This is also the practice throughout much of California. These two Sheriffs must respect the constitutional rights of their citizens to bear arms.”


“California is often a leader in so many ways, but our state lags badly in streamlining its firearms laws,” said Gene Hoffman, Chairman of The Calguns Foundation. “We need 21st century gun laws that respect our Constitutional rights, and adopt modern, widely accepted practices that work well throughout the United States. Hopefully this action will serve as a wake-up call to our legislators, and to those officials who stubbornly resist accommodating Second Amendment rights. If they don’t reform, reform will come through litigation.”


The Second Amendment Foundation (www.saf.org) is the nation’s oldest and largest tax-exempt education, research, publishing and legal action group focusing on the Constitutional right and heritage to privately own and possess firearms. Founded in 1974, The Foundation has grown to more than 600,000 members and supporters and conducts many programs designed to better inform the public about the consequences of gun control.


The Calguns Foundation (www.calgunsfoundation.org) is a non-profit legal defense fund for California gun owners. The Calguns foundation works to educate government and the public and protect the rights of individuals to own and lawfully use firearms in California.


A copy of the complaint is available:
http://www.hoffmang.com/firearms/syk...2009-05-09.pdf


-Gene Hoffman
Chairman
The Calguns Foundation.
 
Because this state contains two very large and very liberal voting blocks: San Francisco and Los Angeles. The rest of this state is left with no political power.

This is the exact same thing that happens here in Oregon. The Portland Metro area has the highest concentration of people, and thus the highest concentration of liberal sh*t bags. They drag the state around by the nose, and henceforth Oregon hasn't elected a republican governor since 1979. The people who live here in the Valley don't even seem to realize that people exist East of the Cascades or South of Eugene.
 
Because this state contains two very large and very liberal voting blocks: San Francisco and Los Angeles. The rest of this state is left with no political power.

And the way the Assembly districts are laid out nothing can change.
But we need to keep trying, and maybe we'll win a few, inch by inch.
 
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