Canada And Revlovers

[PA Reb]

Canada is a great country full of beauty and my question in no way was meant to start an international argument about gun laws there versus the U.S. I am thinking about a spring bear hunt in Quebec in an area that not only has alot of bears but is full of wolves also. A friend of mine that has hunted in this area in the past has told me his stand was completely surrouded by wolves one evening on a recent hunt. I've personally always felt a little more at ease hunting in areas like this with a .44 magnum on my hip as backup / protection and not as a primary hunting weapon. That leads me to this question; I can see why the Canadian government has extremely tight restrictions on taking a handgun across their border but why is hunting with a revolver illegal for residents who can legally own them? Is a guide for instance, that is legally allowed to own a handgun allowed to carry it for "protection from the wild" while out guiding a client? Just curious!

 

[JPriest]

PA Reb, here is a good article for you:
Who may carry handguns in Canada? - Canada - CBC News

"If one's life could be threatened by wild animals while working in a remote wilderness area and firearms are required for protection, then the act states that authorization is possible.

In 2002, 259 people who worked in remote wilderness were authorized to carry handguns, along with an additional 82 trappers."

 

[M29since14]

I have read where IPSC/USPSA competitors took handguns into Canada for matches. There was some description of the requirements but I failed to pay any attention to them. I don't think Canada allows handgun hunting, so that wouldn't be a good reason, but may be mistaken about that. I have heard enough horror stories about folks who messed up and accidentally took handguns into Canada (or maybe I should say "tried to") that I am not sure I would try it even if I had all the papers in order.

 

[kamloops67]

Canada is a great country full of beauty and my question in no way was meant to start an international argument about gun laws there versus the U.S. I am thinking about a spring bear hunt in Quebec in an area that not only has alot of bears but is full of wolves also. A friend of mine that has hunted in this area in the past has told me his stand was completely surrouded by wolves one evening on a recent hunt. I've personally always felt a little more at ease hunting in areas like this with a .44 magnum on my hip as backup / protection and not as a primary hunting weapon. That leads me to this question; I can see why the Canadian government has extremely tight restrictions on taking a handgun across their border but why is hunting with a revolver illegal for residents who can legally own them? Is a guide for instance, that is legally allowed to own a handgun allowed to carry it for "protection from the wild" while out guiding a client? Just curious!

a guide could qualify for the special permit, but as a regular joe?NO at least not yet , the "wilderness carry" campaign is currently addressing that issue.
as for hunting with them ,thats one of the seemingly arbitrary laws i speak of.
did you know that 25 and 32 cal handguns are prohibited here ?
or no handguns with barrels 4" or shorter ,so i have 2 guns that have 4.2" barrels these are laws we could change with enough public opinion
kind of sounds like you guys with the NRA.
PA REB sorry if i messed in your thread i was just being me. the last thing i want is conflict with anyone on this forum.
BOB1956 my apologies you were probably just kidding and i was being overly defensive ,i love my home as im sure you love yours.
CHEERS ALL
MIKE REYNOLDS
ps. if i was surrounded by wolves the only thing id be worried about is that some would get away as i reached for my speed loader. jerry miculec im not

 

[gjgalligan]

I just can't figure any good reasons to go to Canada.

 

[SASABERANGER]

As of 2007 when I retired from Scobey, MT US Customs and Border Protection taking a hand gun into Canada will get you a $500 fine, loss of the weapon and blacklisted from ever entering Canada again. NO QUESTIONS ASKED.
Bottom line is no Handguns go across the border by visitors.
Hunting arms (long guns) require a certain amount of paperwork done in advance and inspection on both the US side when leaving the US and the Canadian side when entering Canada. Process is reversed
when leaving Canada and reentering the US. Canada just wants to make sure that you didn't sell or give any arms to a local while you were up there.
In any event check with Department of Homeland Security before planning any gun related trips to Canada.
Thom Braxton
SWCA #1474

 

[PA Reb]

I contacted the RCMP yesterday and they are sending me the required paperwork to enter Canada with a hunting rifle. It really doesn't sound too complicated - fill out the form in triplicate before arriving but don't sign it until asked to do so in front of a border agent. Pay the required $25 fee and if you've been a "good boy", your on your way again. The lady I spoke with on the phone was very gracious and explained everything in just a few minutes. She also kindly told me to adhere to the Canadian laws on handguns without exception. I didn't argue or ask her anything more about that subject!

Canadian members- Is there any type of inspection that takes place when crossing from one Province into another or is it just a matter of crossing an imaginary line (crossing the U.S. / Canada border into Ontario and then into Quebec)

"kamloops67" - I never thought anything like that for one second. I appreciate your insight and information !

 

[JPriest]

PA Reb,

There are no provincial border crossings per se. Sometimes there will be an information office where you will be tempted to buy souvenirs and listen to someone playing the bagpipes, but nothing like the US/Canada crossing where you have to stop and answer questions, etc.

We do have some strange inter-provincial trade rules however, like you're not supposed to import wine made in one province to another province without paying somekind of tax. I'm not sure how they catch these people but I've heard about it being done.

When you bring your rifle into Canada it is a really good idea to bring a trigger lock with you and keep it locked on the gun at all times. Also, some kind of lockable container for any ammo you'll have with you would be good too. It doesn't have to be a safe, but they take a dim view of loose ammo, and I've heard of several local hunters charged with unsafe ammo storage for having a few (one or two) loose rounds in a truck bed or trunk. I think the number in Ontario was just over 300 of such charges last year. I think they check people pretty regularly in hunting country.

 

[kamloops67]

PA REB the border is an imaginary line ,but the permitting process varies from province to province, federal laws enforced by provincial firearms officers (rcmp). quebec is the most hostile province permit wise, as i understand it. i would make certain by calling the chief firearms officer for quebec and ontario both.
1 800 731 4000 (for both)