carry option for the vehicle

[amazingflapjack]

I'd like to see some vehicle mounts for shot guns, if anyone has some.

 

[doc540]

 

[Hunterfz6]

I'd like to see some vehicle mounts for shot guns, if anyone has some.

I was putting my gun in the center console enroute to the range. That was before I had my CCDL. Now I just keep it on my body.

 

[crofoot629]

In the 1986 Miami FBI Shootout, two agents who were chasing the suspects had their car rammed, both lost their primary weapons. One was able to return fire with a holstered backup weapon he had, the other was unarmed. Both ended up sustaining injuries during the subsequent gunfight.

My advice? Keep it in a holster.

Remember that when you keep a weapon anywhere but on your body, you risk losing access to it in a collision while in a motor vehicle. Don't think you'll be in a collision? It can happen. I'd go with the words of Clint Smith, "Either SHOOT or DRAW, but don't do BOTH!"

Edit to add: Don't think you'll be rammed? My father recently had to draw his weapon, he was not forced to use it, thankfully, after being rammed off the road by three attackers who felt he had "wronged them" in traffic. My father is a contractor, not a police officer.

-Rob

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ THIS.
Admitted Clint Smith Fan Boy and student of Newhall, Miami, and North Hollywood to name a few.

Emory

 

[C.S.63]

Ok here is a suggestion, being right handed and usually carry a centennial
strong side in a vehicle I usually just slide it under my right thigh or leave it in the holster. when under thigh it is in an old IWB suede/leather holster
with the belt clip removed the kind ya used to be able to get for a few bucks. This way the seat belt is not in the way. easy peasy in and out of pocket and minimal possibility of mistakenly being seen brandishing a deadly weapon.
Originally suggested many many years ago by one of N.Y.'s finest
(East NY?)

For the OP all good info here!!

 

[Protected One]

I had my vehicle carry method worked out to perfection (see 1st pic).The holster could be spun out of sight when the car was unoccupied, leaving only the strap visible. Then, recently I was in an accident in which my car was totaled. My new car does not accommodate the custom driver seat holster that was made for the other car, so it put me back to square one.

After looking at several available products, including the one the OP brought to our attention, I settled on the set-up pictured below. While not ideal it does hold the gun in a easily retrievable position while driving, and when I exit the car it goes into my belt holster.

Unless something better comes along it looks like this will be it.

 

[Whitwabit]

I felt that it was too easy to forget and leave the weapon when leaving my Jeep and with a rag top Jeep it does little good to lock it when a pen knife would easily cut thru the top .. and I feel much more secure with out having to handle the pistol switching from one holster to another !!

I'll stay with IWB carry unless I have an appointment with my doctors which we can't carry at here in Illinois .. my Jeep has a locking floor mounted Tuffy locking compartment I can secure it in ..

 

[Wise_A]

Speaking of ragtop Jeeps, guy I know tells that story about another trooper. Boss called him into the SP barracks, and asked him where is off-duty gun was. He says, "Right out in my Jeep."

"Nope," boss says. "Got it right here in my desk."

It had been stolen six months ago and recovered that week. Serial number got ran, came back to this dunderhead, who'd never even noticed it was gone.

 

[Protected One]

Speaking of ragtop Jeeps, guy I know tells that story about another trooper. Boss called him into the SP barracks, and asked him where is off-duty gun was. He says, "Right out in my Jeep."

"Nope," boss says. "Got it right here in my desk."

It had been stolen six months ago and recovered that week. Serial number got ran, came back to this dunderhead, who'd never even noticed it was gone.

That is scary!
1) That he could be so careless with a firearm, and
2) THAT HE DID NOT EVEN NOTICE IT MISSING!!!

and since it had been gone for six months without him noticing, that tells us that he didn't practice with it very much. SMH

 

[filipows]

In my sate any loaded firearm (pistol) in a vehicle MUST on the person. these option other than a holster that puts it on your body would be a violation. Not sure what other states say about it

 

[D Brown]

In my sate any loaded firearm (pistol) in a vehicle MUST on the person. these option other than a holster that puts it on your body would be a violation. Not sure what other states say about it

I'm glad I live here and not there.

 

[RGVshooter]

Just remember, if they get your car, they get your gun.

That's why you buy a Ford Focus or a Chevy Cobalt.. Believe me, no is gonna steal it..

 

[forrestinmathews]

Holy thread resurrection Batman! Thou shalt maintain positive control of thy weapon if thou desireth it in time of need. This also applies to your cell phone. They tend to shift in flight.

Clint Smith said the choices were between driving and shooting. Clearly one must draw prior to shooting. It was on Shooting USA or something like that back before he was a celebrity.

 

[Brasky]

I keep my Glock AIWB and I can draw just as fast sitting as standing. People really need to try harder to find ways to carry on body. Off body carry is not a good idea as it keeps your firearm vulnerable for both theft and forgetting it there or allowing it into the hands of youngsters.

If you can't comfortably carry on body in a method that allows you to draw while sitting, you need to work on achieving a healthy weight

 

[Muss Muggins]

Zombie Thread . . . Is this company even still in business?

 

[Protected One]

Zombie Thread . . . Is this company even still in business?

Yes, they are.

Some threads become relevant again because of the subject. This is one of those threads.

 

[crazyphil]

I like the Ross Driver's Cross Draw shown in the photo at left. Easy on
and off with the snaps. Don't need to undo belt. I gave the Glock, and
the holster, to my granddaughter this Christmas.

But, I still have the one on the right. Same model by Ross. Shown with
my Model 10 with 2" barrel.

 

[forrestinmathews]

Don't laugh but to me having a gun in the car sounds like in old times having a gun (or several) on the horse, in addition to those carried on person. It's a backup.

Best as many said is to always keep gun on you. But in car, as long as it's done within the law and reasonably - hidden from view, locked etc.-, why not have some spares?

I keep one with a light mounted in the glovebox. I'm always night ready no matter what. Don't think it's important...? Come home to an open door just once and see. I left and didn't latch the door completely by accident. I came home to two black cats guarding the porch looking at me like, "We got this Dad. Don't worry." I still cleared the house. They were right.

 

[Walkingwolf]

Hmmm, old thread, but I'll bite anyway. I carry my car using that spoiler thing on the back of the trunk.

 

[jtcarm]

Just remember, if they get your car, they get your gun.





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Another thing to remember is even though you are legal to carry, if you leave the vehicle and someone else is in it, they are in possession of the weapon and violating the law if they're not also LTC.

At least that's how it works here in TX.

 

[Execpro]

Car carry?

Some good post. In Ohio,a person who has a CCW must be in control of the weapon. I carry my pistol or revolver AIWB crossdraw. I put the grip over the seatbelt covered by my shirt or coat. If I need to leave gun in the car,it will go in a lock box under drivers seat (the gun NEVER leaves the holster at any time except for cleaning/inspection/range-training time).
Taking a gun out of the holster to lock up increases the chance of an accident ( Murphy's Law).
I have to agree that the best place for a firearm is on the person. There are some good driving holsters listed on this thread (some are easy on,easy off).

Be Safe and HAPPY trails!

 

[adwjc]

Regarding the FBI incident, it was 1986 (Miami). Two agents killed, six surviving agents injured.

None of the shots that hit Platt (thug with the Mini 14) did actually hit him in the heart. Bullet stops within an inch of the heart, collapsing his lung. When wounded agent Mirales finally took them out, he had shot 5 rounds from his shotgun, four other rounds that missed, and when they were trying to escape in one of the FBI cars, he approached and finished them off with his .357 revolver.

At the outset, two agents lost their primary firearms in the collision with the stolen car that Platt and Matix were using, one flew out of the car, one slipped off the seat and couldn't be recovered before the agent was shot.

Both bad guys were veterans with honorable discharges, they had pulled a string of robberies, twice they robbed people that were shooting at an abandoned rock pit, taking their cars. They were found to be drug free.

 

[DevilDog72]

I have a spit bench seat in my PU and there is a gap between the drivers seat and the pax seat. In that gap is a pistol rug and that is where my 19-4 snub resides while I am in the truck. It is easy to reach, secure and not visible from outside of the truck. Oh and it is perfectly legal to be inside my vehicle in Texas with or without a LTC.

 

[sigp220.45]

I actually worked a bunch of carjackings back in the 90s when they were big news and were made a federal offense.

Not a single one happened by a thug walking up to an occupied car. Even criminals realize there are guns in there, and also all you need to do is hit that long skinny pedal on the right and off you go.

All the ones I worked happened as a driver approached the car. Then its gun in the face, keys please, and there goes your car and your gun strapped to the steering column.

One of my buddies got carjacked (almost) as he and his pregnant wife walked up to their car at their DC apartment complex. The guy with the gun got the key, got into the car, and then used his gun hand to go from PARK to DRIVE. As soon as the gun was off him, my pal drew his issued 226 and let fly. He shot the bejeebus out of his own car and ventilated the 19 year-old-used-to-be-carjacker, who he pulled out of the car and sat with until he died.

I know there are carjackings where someone runs up to your car while you sit there with your foot on the gas and your hand on your new Governor, but in my experience they aren't the norm.

 

[Stevens]

Good for him and good ending! But is that a "good shoot"? Was he the car owner charged with anything, seems the carjacker was going to drive away with the stolen property. I hope not, but, it seems some jurisdictions would have gone after the shooter?
Steve W

 

[BigBadWolf11B]

I prefer the "door carry" in my truck. I have an OWB I've modified to attach in the driver's door slot in my Ram 1500 (2014). It's discreet, as you don't know there's a holster there unless you get close enough to see it (with door open) or there's a pistol holstered in it.

My routine is:
1. CC pistol to truck
2. Get in truck and close door
3. Unholster from body to truck holster
4. Drive to destination
5. Park and re-holster to body
6. Get out and go to destination

The only downside I've found is modifying truck and (OWB) holster to work well together and the cost of a spare holster.

Works for me though and fits within the parameters of legal CC in my state (SC), your mileage may vary though.

 

[Stevens]

I prefer the "door carry" in my truck. I have an OWB I've modified to attach in the driver's door slot in my Ram 1500 (2014). It's discreet, as you don't know there's a holster there unless you get close enough to see it (with door open) or there's a pistol holstered in it.

My routine is:
1. CC pistol to truck
2. Get in truck and close door
3. Unholster from body to truck holster
4. Drive to destination
5. Park and re-holster to body
6. Get out and go to destination

The only downside I've found is modifying truck and (OWB) holster to work well together and the cost of a spare holster.

Works for me though and fits within the parameters of legal CC in my state (SC), your mileage may vary though.

That's interesting, might work for mine too, maybe IWB holster clipped on door pocket might be good.
Thanks
Steve W

 

[Wise_A]

Are you moving the gun from holster to holster? That's an awful lot of gun handling, in a relatively confined space.

Other concern I'd have with vehicle carry is actually having it. Say you get into an accident--you'd have to remember in the middle of everything else, to move your gun to your body, which could complicate the issue. A guy with a gun in open carry is one thing, but if one were seen retrieving a gun before getting out of a car after an accident might lead a lot of people to make a "man with a gun" call, or hot-foot it out of there.

It's not like they don't make excellent OWB holsters that are comfortable to drive with.

 

[daddy bear]

Lots of not so good lawyers here.

Jack

 

[BigBadWolf11B]

Are you moving the gun from holster to holster? That's an awful lot of gun handling, in a relatively confined space.

Yes. I never holster/re-holster while the vehicle is not moving and a full size pickup is not confined.

I do get the point of the accident though. Especially a rollover or receiving a drivers side/door hit. The pistol may be dislodged/unholstered in that instance and may become a loss in a fire, depending how bad the door was smashed or where the unholstered pistol made its final stop (under vehicle, thrown from vehicle or unrecoverable, etc.