PastureOfMuppets
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Yes it does. It's between your ears.
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Carry with one in chamber?
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Yes it does. It's between your ears.
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I've heard several versions of this story over the years, all of them having different endings...but that's sort of beside the point here.
What I think is interesting is that out of all the people who responded with comments about this, only two, maybe three (I'm not going back through and count) people even mention revolvers. Everyone just seems to automatically (no pun intended) assume that the original poster is talking about a semi-auto, simply because he uses the word "pistol"...while in fact, he doesn't say what sort of handgun was used. That was the first question popped into my mind.
But whichever type gun was used, I'm with the Of-Course-You-Carry-One-In-The-Chamber crowd if you're carrying a semi-auto. Why wouldn't you? By the time you've used two hands to chamber a round in a semi-auto, you could be dead, unless you're carrying one of those new-fangled double-action semi-autos.
But as someone else mentions...this horse is dead. Let's stop beating it.
What I think is interesting is that out of all the people who responded with comments about this, only two, maybe three (I'm not going back through and count) people even mention revolvers. Everyone just seems to automatically (no pun intended) assume that the original poster is talking about a semi-auto, simply because he uses the word "pistol"...while in fact, he doesn't say what sort of handgun was used. That was the first question popped into my mind.
But whichever type gun was used, I'm with the Of-Course-You-Carry-One-In-The-Chamber crowd if you're carrying a semi-auto. Why wouldn't you? By the time you've used two hands to chamber a round in a semi-auto, you could be dead, unless you're carrying one of those new-fangled double-action semi-autos.
But as someone else mentions...this horse is dead. Let's stop beating it.
I can't respond for all the others, but since the OP was posting this in the M&P Sub-Forum, I pretty much figured they were referring to using one of the various M&P models. Plus... Do Wheel Guys usually discuss "Carrying With One In The Chamber" (The thread's title)?
If not... Perhaps this should have been moved to the Concealed Carry (or appropriate revolver) Sub-Forum.
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You know, I didn't even notice which sub-forum this was in...I think I just picked it up from the home page. I guess I should pay more attention, huh?
Well, yeah, we do, except it's usually something like "Do you carry with the hammer down on a loaded chamber", or "Do you keep an empty chamber under the hammer on a DA revolver" or other words to the effect of wondering if you carry with the hammer down on a loaded chamber. We probably don't discuss it as much as semi-auto people do, though.
gwpercle
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The gun didn't go off all by itself....I would be willing to bet money he had his finger on the trigger and pulled it as he was shoving it in his pants....Mugger's ,robber's and thieve's are not the brightest and most well trained people around! They tend to do stupid stuff...like shoot themselves or thier accomplices.
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Kadonny
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Funny, thanks for a laugh Rastoff.
While shoving the hand gun into your belt looks great on TV and in the movies, it's generally unsafe. As The Sarge and others have noted, the problem isn't with keeping a round in the chamber, it's with the storage method used.
I had a few patients who did the same thing when I was working. One of them shot him self in through the scrotum, one through the thigh, and one through his penis.
One other thing that they had in common was that they were not legally allowed to carry firearms.
It's an occupational hazard for that sort of thing, but a legal gun owner with a good holster and good technique should not have to worry about it.
I had a few patients who did the same thing when I was working. One of them shot him self in through the scrotum, one through the thigh, and one through his penis.
One other thing that they had in common was that they were not legally allowed to carry firearms.
It's an occupational hazard for that sort of thing, but a legal gun owner with a good holster and good technique should not have to worry about it.
Kentucky Dave
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This is why Glocks (with one in the chamber) or S&W DA revolver (one in every chamber) are my preference. Pull, point, shoot.
Less to worry about in a bad situation where all thought should be toward placing that first shot effectively and promptly...
"Safeties" on my firearms (other than 1911 - it is its own world that works and why question it?) are not something I care for.
Less to worry about in a bad situation where all thought should be toward placing that first shot effectively and promptly...
"Safeties" on my firearms (other than 1911 - it is its own world that works and why question it?) are not something I care for.
millisec
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Definitely an age old discussion and to each his own. I carry one in chamber and thumb safety on. At least for me the thumb safety off is a one handed part of my draw. When I was CCing other striker guns w/o safety I was a little less comfortable. There's a reason a lot have glocked the rocks or other body parts. IMO (and not to start a fight) M&P is a little safer but is still a risk for everyday concealed carry with no safety. Cop style carry where it pretty much stays on a belt in an exposed holster is a different and safer story IMO. Although I would not want to have to deal with level 3 holsters in a bind. Like anything else I guess practice makes perfect. I am in agreement with many ranges/competitions banning Serpa holsters though.
Photog
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I carry cocked and locked. I am not sure of something here...in a Glock or M&P type pistol there is no safety, you just pull the trigger and if a round is in the chamber it fires....on a DA revolver, there is no safety and if fully loaded you pull the trigger and it fires, only with a little more force needed to pull the trigger. But as pointed out here several times, with adrenaline, motor skills, stress etc. You probably won't notice any difference.
I also carry one in the chamber for the same reason I keep gas in my car's gas tank, and keep the natural gas turned on in my house and the electrical breakers on also.
If you are really going to be that worried about accidents, with no natural gas in the house there is little chance of a explosion, no electricity in the house there is no chance of electrical fire, with no gas in the car there is little chance for a bad car fire.
I agree, this has been beat to death. If you don't feel totally comfortable and safe while using a firearm in any way, then it is time that you think of another method of self defense.
I also carry one in the chamber for the same reason I keep gas in my car's gas tank, and keep the natural gas turned on in my house and the electrical breakers on also.
If you are really going to be that worried about accidents, with no natural gas in the house there is little chance of a explosion, no electricity in the house there is no chance of electrical fire, with no gas in the car there is little chance for a bad car fire.
I agree, this has been beat to death. If you don't feel totally comfortable and safe while using a firearm in any way, then it is time that you think of another method of self defense.
To continue the dead horse beatdown, IMO carrying with a round chambered is the only way to carry. If a person is uncomfortable carrying a striker fired pistol loaded/chambered that's fine just get a model with a thumb safety and practice practice practice. An unloaded/unchambered gun is less useful than a belt knife. Just my 2 cents.
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Here we go.
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Here we go.
Poor ol' horsey.
big44man
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I carry a SIG, which has no safety, one in the chamber, hammer down. First shot is double action, follow-up shots are single action.
When I was carrying my CZ, it also had one chambered, hammer down, safety OFF !
With either pistol, it's draw, point, pull trigger!
Practice till it becomes second nature, and then keep practicing !
When I was carrying my CZ, it also had one chambered, hammer down, safety OFF !
With either pistol, it's draw, point, pull trigger!
Practice till it becomes second nature, and then keep practicing !
TheyoungGringo85
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I carry +1 in the chamber for many good reasons. 1. I live in Dayton, Ohio. 2. It only takes a bad guy 1.5 seconds to move 20 ft. 3. Why pay $500 for an M&P 40 and not have it cocked & locked?
Adam
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Just me, and it's merely a statement and an opinion so it's worth what was paid.
1. Bad guys often do NOT use holsters (think Plaxico Burres).
2. If you are not comfortable with a round in the chamber please seriously reconsider carrying a firearm all together.
The time it takes, and the training to instinctively know to rack a round, to prepare for a gunfight -- it's already over and you, Mr. I'll load a round when I need it....have already lost.
Not meant to offend or come off snotty. Just think logically how quick a fire/don't fire situation bears out.
So if I understand the situation correctly, some dirt bag goes and robs a store and on the way out of the business, said dirt bag "stuffs gun into pants" and the gun goes off injuring said dirt bag.......KARMA..... I carried a 686 for the first 7 or 8 years of my 22 years as a street cop. Then carried a Glock 20 and later a Glock 22 by the time I retired I never did have any of my duty weapons fire until I pulled the trigger of course my duty weapons were always carried in a holster and yes there was ALWAYS one in the chamber. I still carry a gun daily, sometimes a revolver, sometimes a Glock it just depends on the situation. I carry any side arm in a holster and there is still always one in the chamber. I guess I am a creature of habit for better or worse. This is just my opinion and is worth exactly what you paid for it. Be safe and use a good holster.
