Carrying in College.

[Muley Gil]

As a retired cop, I would NEVER advise someone to break the law or campus rules, but there sure are a lot of pockets in a computer bag.

As to the rumors that I had a closet full of rifles, shotguns, and handguns, or that I used to cast bullets in the bathroom or load ammo, all while living in an on campus dorm, those were all just ugly rumors. Just ask Forum member tennexplorer.

Of course, this was back in the 1970s, when there was a smidgen more common sense than now.

 

[BigRich315]

I've been giving this even FURTHER thought, and am not sure where I draw the line between concealability and accessibility. I would never rely on ankle carry as my main means in general, but I think it is a front runner in this situation.

My P3AT will NEVER be made in that manner, but then again it would be very difficult to detect in a deep riding IWB, which is easier to get to fast. A buddy suggests that I just leave it in pocket as I carry it now, but I'm not very fond of that idea for some reason.

The question is not whether or not to carry, but WHAT to carry and HOW. For me mostly how.

 

[flop-shank]

Thunderwear and a P3AT would be suited to the occasion IMO.

 

[ImprovedModel56Fan]

You have to choose, do you break the rules and be able to protect yourself if, God forbid, something should happen. Or do you follow the rules and be as vulnerable as all those dead people at VA Tech were.

I don't think that I can improve on this.

 

[Big Foot]

Don't take this the wrong way but concealed means concealed.

Does this go for those w/o a CHL? I see this expression a lot, or "better be judged by 12 rather than carried out by 6". Real trite, cute expressions, but I find it disturbing.
This attitude is typical of why this country's mores, especially in Washington D.C. where anything goes, is heading to the "toilet"...

 

[flop-shank]

The second ammendment states; A weell regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. The people may keep and bear arms. Period. The Federal Constitution is the highest law of the land. The lawless ones are the politicians that violate their oath of office and create unconstitutional laws, not the citizenry who operate within their constitutional rights.

The morally questionable ones are the people who respect illegal, unconstitutional laws as if they were just, and thus create a new, lower standard.

 

[WC145]

I've been giving this even FURTHER thought, and am not sure where I draw the line between concealability and accessibility. I would never rely on ankle carry as my main means in general, but I think it is a front runner in this situation.

My P3AT will NEVER be made in that manner, but then again it would be very difficult to detect in a deep riding IWB, which is easier to get to fast. A buddy suggests that I just leave it in pocket as I carry it now, but I'm not very fond of that idea for some reason.

The question is not whether or not to carry, but WHAT to carry and HOW. For me mostly how.

I have two jobs - LE and Respiratory Therapy. Currently, when working in the hospital I pack a scandium J-frame in a Cobra Gunskin ankle holster. It's comfortable and well concealed. Prior to getting the 360 I carried a Kel-tec P3AT clipped inside the waist band of my scrub pants, gun on one side, knife on the other. Carried that way for a few years and never had an issue, plus it's so light that you hardly know it's there.

Something like the Kel-tec or a Ruger LCP isn't much gun but it's better than nothing and they disappear in a pocket or inside the waist band. To be honest, they're so easy to conceal, if you get discovered it's your own fault.

 

[cabindriver]

Take a look here to see the crime on your campus.
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[Amy May]

Carrying a concealed weapon on an unauthorized campus setting doesn't compare in severity to the examples given. I don't want "yahoos" running around campus where my grandkids are attending that are doing some of the examples given and packing "heat". Before you know it, "chug-a-lugs" will turn into "lets fire at the bottle"....."Do what you want to do...."?

So you're saying you feel students with permits shouldn't be able to carry on campus....

 

[BigRich315]

I have two jobs - LE and Respiratory Therapy. Currently, when working in the hospital I pack a scandium J-frame in a Cobra Gunskin ankle holster. It's comfortable and well concealed. Prior to getting the 360 I carried a Kel-tec P3AT clipped inside the waist band of my scrub pants, gun on one side, knife on the other. Carried that way for a few years and never had an issue, plus it's so light that you hardly know it's there.

Something like the Kel-tec or a Ruger LCP isn't much gun but it's better than nothing and they disappear in a pocket or inside the waist band. To be honest, they're so easy to conceal, if you get discovered it's your own fault.

Thank you for that input. That's exactly my thinking. I know the .380 isn't the best choice, but my M&P40c is too big and I don't have the M&P340 yet (it will replace the P3AT when I do).

Heck, a BIC pen in hand is better than a .45 in your safe!

 

[The Big D]

There are many reasons why I don't believe "college carry" should be the order of the day. This article tends to support my belief.

What morons!!!!!

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Be safe.

 

[MrJT]

There are many reasons why I don't believe "college carry" should be the order of the day. This article tends to support my belief.

Nowhere did it say he had a concealed carry license. It doesn't support why you think those with the license shouldn't be allowed to carry. Virginia Tech doesn't allow concealed carry. How'd that turn out?

Did you hear about that woman who dropped her gun while in a public bathroom and had it discharge? Perhaps we should ban handguns from public bathrooms.

Just today there was a bomb scare at some school. Some kid brought explosives in. I think the OP would be WISE to carry on campus with the way things are these days. He'd be protecting himself and his fellow students from the maniacs.

 

[Newfyman]

I have worked 26 years for a university and I carry everywhere everyday. Yes, it is against school policy but I make the choice that I believe is right for me. By my very nature I am a sheepdog and I am committed to protecting myself and those around me.

I have a double pouch cell phone holster. My cell phone rides in one pouch and my baby Browning in the other. NO ONE has EVER asked what I carry in the second pouch. I also carry a Model 38-2 in my coat pocket. I hope and pray I never need a gun on campus but if I do, I will have one.

 

[38-44HD45]

In the olden days, when I carried every day at college, there was no such thing as a CHL, or legal concealed carry, at least in my state. (All applicable statutes of limitations now having run, I can say this.) I knew a few others who carried "book bag guns."

BTW, it never occurred to me to go on a rampage, drunken or otherwise. It did occur to me that some psycho might, and I've never much enjoyed the prospect of being an unarmed victim. The nervous Nellies just don't get this simple fact: Those who are a danger will NEVER give a fat rat's ass if it is illegal to have a weapon of any kind, in any particular place, except that they just might avoid places where their victims might be able to fight back effectively. Makes me sick.

 

[Pasifikawv]

Air Force could move to Utah where college carry is permitted by the state and stae law prohibits colleges from santioning any student who legally cc's with permit....

Wish more States would adopt such statutes...

 

[brokenprism]

I just watched Kiss Kiss Bang Bang the other night - hilarious movie - and Val Kilmer carried a .22 mag mini revolver in his shorts, which saved his character's life. Why couldn't you suspend somethign like that on a long lanyard around your neck, under your shirt? You'd have to be close to use it, but if you're not close and SHTF, running is a great option.

 

[Mwach]

I agree with Bummer's answer that Concealed means Concealed. If you live by that motto then nothing will ever come of your disobedience to school rules, if that is what you choose. I never break the Law, but when it comes to "rules" I know that "Concealed means Concealed" and I have never had a problem when I have chosen to ignore the rules and I am a very faithful carrier. If you are worried what will happen to you if one day the soft fecal matter contacts the mass air mover and you have to display or use your weapon it would be much better for you to have to defend yourself in front of a college board than for your family to do without you. Just my opinion and not a recommendation.

 

[RightWinger]

When I attended Middle TN State Univ. guns were prohibited on campus and I carried a 342 in my pocket every single day I was on campus. I went to school to get an education and never did anything squirly that would give anyone the right to search me.....I never told anyone I carried a gun, and concealed it very good. I never had any issues at all.