CCW: Keep one in the pipe?

[rcpaul]

This is how people get shot accidentally they think they dont have a round chambered because they never carry with a round in the chamber then boom bad things happen. You carry with a round in the chamber and treat every gun as if it was loaded end of story

 

[Arik]

always one chambered. If the gun is not ment to be carried that way (some older guns) then i have no use for it and wont spend money to buy it.

For those who dont carry with one in the chamber i recommend carring in condition "Butterscotch"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pU2IOTEZlU&feature=youtube_gdata_player

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[rromeo]

I love Auto's but these are the reasons i CARRY a Revolver.

I carry with 6 rounds chambered.

 

[Chuck1217]

OP didn't say what he carried if it had a light-quick trigger maybe he's right. there was a segment on one of the SD TV shows a couple of weeks ago and the 'expert' timed himself both ways- he lost a couple of seconds having to chamber a round. Not devastating- unless the BG is already chambered.
I carry with one in, but have a manual safety. I practice consistently taking it off when I draw.

 

[The Sarge]

Quite simply, carry one in the chamber and be ready to rock.

The Israelis used to carry in condition 3 due to vintage pistols with no drop safety and they were good at drawing and racking. Now that they mostly use the modern Glock pistol they have gone to condition ready. Bill

 

[Double-O-Dave]

Meh. Tell him to get a Ruger LC9. Heavy and longish trigger and a safety he can choose to use or not. Great choice for those in his situation. You are not going to have a ND with that gun.

Stinks at target shooting, but works well for its intended purpose.

I was going to say the same thing, but substitute "Sigma" for Ruger LC9.

Regards,

Dave

 

[Poodle Soup]

Carry the gun ready to shoot or dont carry it at all.

 

[David Sinko]

As a more extreme example of a lack of confidence mixed with outright stupidity, I recently "interacted" with an elderly guy who open carries an unloaded Model 629. He explained to me that he'd rather be killed by an assailant than risk having his gun (a modern double action revolver) discharge accidentally and kill somebody. He was absolutely serious and there was no reasoning with him. Fortunately those who choose to carry their handguns in a compromised state of readiness are mostly a danger to only themselves.

Dave Sinko

 

[cbr6864]

This has been brought up as many times as 1911 vs glock AK vs AR. There is no one single answer as everyone is different and each gun is different. Take the Keltec P11 its a true DAO with an internal hammer, there is no way that gun is going off unless you purposely pull the trigger all the way back. Then you have SA were the striker is full cocked back, some guns offer a firing pin block some dont. Then there are the SA/DA guns some offer a decocker some dont. With Glock style guns that are recoil dependent DA guns were the striker is partially pulled back. Some guns have an external safety some dont.


To call someone stupid because of their method of carry is just ignorant.

 

[StatesRightist]

Modern guns are safe to carry with a round in the chamber, it's been proven over and over again, personal phobias aside.

 

[cbr6864]

Modern guns are safe to carry with a round in the chamber, it's been proven over and over again, personal phobias aside.

http://seanlinnane.blogspot.com/2011/03/glock-accidental-discharge.html

 

[StatesRightist]

The gun did not just go off, there are multiple comments on the site that cover the subject well. A lack of proper carry technique will get you hurt, that's not the subject of this post.

Tales of guns "just going off" are like Bigfoot sightings, they've never been confirmed.

 

[Stu Honea]

Modern guns are safe to carry with a round in the chamber, it's been proven over and over again, personal phobias aside.

StatesRightist beat me to it. There is absolutely no logical reason to carry a modern semi auto with an empty chamber,regardless of make.Safety lies between the ears.

 

[vista461]

Sean Linnane: GLOCK ACCIDENTAL DISCHARGE

A holster doing that should've been retired a while ago.
That is the carriers fault, not the guns.

 

[HardShell]

Chamber loaded, whether we are talking the primary on my hip or the BUG in my pocket. Three decades of daily CCW, zero issues.

FWIW, I do keep the pistols in my vehicles' gloveboxes chamber-empty -- I've done so for years and don't plan to change. YMMV. But chamber-loaded for on-person carry.

 

[walkin jack]

I carry several different types of hand guns. The revolvers I carry will either be Smith n Wesson or Ruger and of course I load all chambers. When I'm carrying a semi-auto, which is most of the time, it will be a Glock. I ALWAYS carry it hot. I do this because when it comes time to defend yourself you might NOT have time to rack one in, regardless of what you may hear. Add to that the reality that you will be under a great deal of stress and you may not be thinking of just every little thing you need to do.

Regardless of whether or not your semi auto has an active safety or passive safety system your BRAIN is your most important feature. If your gun has an active manual safety and you carry with it engaged it will cost you precious nano-seconds to disengage it. If your gun has a passive safety system only then you will be fine if you can keep your finger out of the trigger guard until it's time to shoot.

These are only PART of the reasons why training, practice and experience are VITAL to anyone carrying a gun. Because no matter what kind of gun you carry or how you carry it you will be relying on your BRAIN including muscle memory in any SHTF situation.

 

[cbr6864]

All things mechanical fail lets say you have a SA semi-auto no firing pin block and the spring holding the sear up happens to fail the gun will discharge or if the sear is worn.

I carry chamber loaded myself but see why some choose not to.

 

[jlrhiner]

To call someone stupid because of their method of carry is just ignorant.

No one called anyone stupid, son. We are saying carrying an unloaded firearm for self defense IS stupid. The only ones you ever hear recommending it are Internet warriors. No one that's ever had their butt on the line will say it's a good idea. As was said above, practice and gain confidence. Doing it wrong is deadly.

 

[jlrhiner]

All things mechanical fail lets say you have a SA semi-auto no firing pin block and the spring holding the sear up happens to fail the gun will discharge.

I carry chamber loaded myself but see why some choose not to.

And lightening could strike your mule. You can make an excuse for everything, but it's still wrong.

 

[cbr6864]

Man I love the internet a never ending source of entertainment