CDNN are they really new?

[AKAOV1MAN]

I have done many transactions with CDNN and been satisfied each time. Sometime there might be a problem if you do not read each ad carefully. In the current catalog(paper) they are selling new 5906 and used 5906. Same with other models.
If you call or e-mail and ask they will send you a paper catalog with all prices in it.

 

[animalmother]

Orded many items from CDNN, including guns when I had my FFL, and never had any probles with the products or the company.

 

[1006TSW]

S&W ships LE guns with 3 magazines. If the guns are 'less expensive' and only come with 1 magazine, how much does it cost to replace the 2 missing magazines with NEW mags? Is that worth the difference in price?

EVERY new LE S&W or Glock that I've ever purchased came with 3 mags, in a factory sealed box.

 

[bwh]

New S&W magazines for any of the 3d Generation pistols run about $40 retail. I suspect that companies like CDNN will strip extra magazines out of a 'new' pistol case to resell the magazines for a little more profit. That's OK - it helps keep the overall cost of the pistol low and CDNN will sell these magazines as 'used' for far less than the retail cost.

Also keep in mind that CDNN still gets in lots of 'post ban' stock - guns that come with only 10-round magazines. To sell them CDNN has to scrounge up at least one hi-cap magazine per pistol. That's why much of what they offer comes with only one hi-cap.

 

[Bret]

Originally posted by snw19_357:
If it's unfired, and has the box serialized to it w/ paperwork, it's new. Whether purchased from a place like CDNN (or any other) or a private party.

So would you consider a gun that hasn't been fired but has been clanked around in my safe for 20 years to be new? I don't think so. In my opinion, once it is sold to the end user, consumer or police department, it's used. I had a Walther P99 and a Star Firestar both replaced by the importers (S&W and Interarms respectively). In both cases, I traded the replacement guns (which were sent directly to me) in on different guns. Both dealers told me that they could not sell them as new because I as the consumer had already taken possession of them. I agree. They both did sell them as used but let the buyers know that I had stated they were unfired. If a police department did take posession of the guns that CDNN is selling as "new", then I think they're being less than fully truthful. In cases like that, they need to tell the whole story. Something like "unfired excess inventory received from police department" would be more appropriate. Of course, if a distributor intended on selling them to a police department, never did, but instead sold them to DCNN, then "new" is accurate.

 

[CarbineKid]

I am looking at getting one of the 6906s from CDNN. Can you please tell me if the gun was fired, did it have any marks on it. The price seems good, but Im wondering if the gun is in perfect(new) condition.

 

[Loomis Guard]

The Smith 6904 + 6906 are the best double stack shorty auto's Smith has EVER produced!!! PERIOD..... My 6904 is on duty every day with me!!!

Loomis Guard

 

[presspics]

How much are the 6906's from CDNN???? The catalog says to call for the price.

The 6906 is my favorite pistol in the whole wide world!!!!!

 

[CarbineKid]

$399.99 For the 6906 and 5906. They state it new...but I'm curious to see if they are truly NIB
Here the S&Ws from their news letter

Smith & Wesson 6906

* 9mm · Stainless · Alloy Frame · 1-12rd Mag · 3-DOT Sights · New #SMI149478 $399.99

Smith & Wesson 5906

* 9mm · Stainless · 3-DOT Sights · 1-15rd Mag · Case · New #SMI149479 $399.99

Smith & Wesson 637 AirWeight

* 38 Special · 1.88" Barrel · Stainless · Alloy Frame · 5-Shot · New #SMI163050 $349.99

Smith & Wesson 642 AirWeight

* 38 Special · 1.88" Barrel · Stainless · Alloy Frame · Hammerless · New #SMI163810 $359.99

Smith & Wesson M&P

* 40s&w · 4.25" Barrel · Fixed Sights · 1-15rd Mag · Case · Test & Evaluation #SMI309200 $359.99

Smith & Wesson SW99

* 40s&w · Night Sights · DA/SA · Decocker · 2-12rd Mags · Case · Smith & Wesson Slide/Walther Frame · New #SMI320202 $389.99

Smith & Wesson 4013TSW Shorty

* 40s&w · Rail · 3.5" Barrel · 1-9rd Mag · 3-DOT Sights · Test Fired · New #SMI604444 $399.99

Smith & Wesson SW40E Enhanced

* 40s&w · Night Sights · Rail · 1-14rd Mag · New · Test Fired #SMISW40ELN $259.99

 

[presspics]

Thanks CarbineKid !!! That's an awesome deal!!

 

[Mr. Wonderful]

Friends,

I've purchased a couple of guns (all new items), and a TON of mags from CDNN over the last couple of years... and never had a problem.

One example: a model 296 new, in original box, etc. for $370. I wish I would have bought more.

Anyway, the guy (salesman) I prefer to deal with is a gent named Neil (maybe spelled Neal). He's always been very up front and helpful. If you're going to call, I suggest you ask to speak with him. For the record, I'm not associated with CDNN or anything like that.

Best wishes,

Roger a.k.a. Mr. Wonderful

 

[jm83]

I've also had good luck. I got their email specials the other day which included an M&P 40 for around $340. I called to see if it was new so I could get the rebate (I will buy an M&P for 290 all day long) and the sales rep told me it was not "new" but a factory tested deal. I know alot of places sell these guns as factory new, or whatever you want to call it, but I thought the honesty was good.

 

[zeroskillz]

Originally posted by WaterburyBob:
...Guns almost never go from the manufacturer to the seller (retailer). There's almost always a distributor or two in the supply chain...

A couple weeks ago at shot show I made it a point to ask every major manufacturer I cam across if they sell direct or only through distributors. Out of all the big ones, Sig and Kimber are the only that will deal direct. All the others go through distributors (some will deal direct if you're part of a buying group).

I wouldn't worry if it had been through a couple distributors, or even a couple dealers.

 

[remat457]

FWIW to the OP, I feel the same way--it is buyer beware.

I sent a pistol back with their agreement (RMA from the sales manager) for a FULL refund including shipping due to their mistake.

Over a month after they have received the pistol I am still waiting for a complete refund.

They only process returns on Sat. and you can't talk to the person that does them.

So, buyer beware.

 

[sigarms229]

I snagged a $399 5906 from them this week and it is NIB. I'm VERY happy with the deal.

 

[CarbineKid]

Originally posted by sigarms229:
I snagged a $399 5906 from them this week and it is NIB. I'm VERY happy with the deal.

I just ordered one today(impulse buy). So I was wondering if anyone has any info/history on this model. I believe its an older one(pre rail). Any info is appreciated.

 

[luis]

I have purchased many guns from CDNN and never had a problem.

This might explain the gun history. In Puerto Rico, local police departments cannot buy guns from gun stores. They have to purchase from the factory or a distributor. When the deal fell apart (distributor should have asked for cash up front) the distributor needed to sell the guns. It is illegal to sell a LEO marked magazine to anyone but police departments. With the gun ban over the distributor swaped an LEO mag and removed the 2 new factory mags and then sold the lot to CDNN.

Almost 20 years ago a distributor I knew in Miami ordered 200 S&W 10s for a PR police department. The department gave them the shaft and went with Glocks. The distributor was very lucky that they had a retail chain that took them off their hands. I was able to pick up 2 directly from the distributor (I had an FFL) for $125 each.

 

[jm83]

man 125 for a 1006 that is a steal.

 

[CarbineKid]

My 5906 came in from CDNN today. It is indeed new. Its also filthy, and bone dry. I think its been sitting in a warehouse for a loooong time. The egg shell foam in the case, is almost flat...from storage I guess. I wonder when it was made...does anyone know? My serial # starts out the same as the one pictured above.
Anyhow at $399 he guns a steal.

 

[Transfer]

Originally posted by ArgMauser:
Sorry jj, I just don't understand the nature of your complaint. When you bought the gun from CDNN, you obviously knew that you were not buying it directly from the S&W factory, right?

Well I dunno ... his complaint seems pretty clear to me. He says that he was repeatedly told that the pistol was new and came from the S&W factory. The only meaningful inference that could be drawn was that it had come directly from the factory (regular shipping methods excepted) and had no previous owner(s), and therefore no depreciation should be taken into account in the purchase price.

Assuming that those representations were indeed made as jj reports, he was misled, and I don't blame him for feeling annoyed. Other people may well have had excellent experiences with the seller, but that doesn't excuse this incident.

Originally posted by Bret:

Originally posted by snw19_357:
If it's unfired, and has the box serialized to it w/ paperwork, it's new. Whether purchased from a place like CDNN (or any other) or a private party.

So would you consider a gun that hasn't been fired but has been clanked around in my safe for 20 years to be new? I don't think so. In my opinion, once it is sold to the end user, consumer or police department, it's used. I had a Walther P99 and a Star Firestar both replaced by the importers (S&W and Interarms respectively). In both cases, I traded the replacement guns (which were sent directly to me) in on different guns. Both dealers told me that they could not sell them as new because I as the consumer had already taken possession of them. I agree. They both did sell them as used but let the buyers know that I had stated they were unfired. If a police department did take posession of the guns that CDNN is selling as "new", then I think they're being less than fully truthful. In cases like that, they need to tell the whole story. Something like "unfired excess inventory received from police department" would be more appropriate. Of course, if a distributor intended on selling them to a police department, never did, but instead sold them to DCNN, then "new" is accurate.

Exactly.