If all them rattling Charter guns you owned, made you afraid to even shoot them, why did such a knowledgeable guy like you, even buy them in the first place?
OK, so I didn't really want to get into a pissing contest and won't. Rather I feel an explanation is in order to prevent such a petty exchange. First off, my very first introduction to guns (other than plastic ones that shot maybe .... water? or ... caps?) was on my eighteenth birthday (actually a day after since all the shops are closed on the fourth of July) The store is still in business and just six miles from my present house. J.C. Penny. Yep a Winchester model 37A in 12 gauge. I then (a month later) moved forever out from my parents home and off to college with a "Gun?" that I had absolutely no experience with. That was around forty years ago. Three years after and also on the fifth of July I bought two first handguns (a Security Six and a then brand new to shooters, Ruger Redhawk in 44 mag). A lot has been self taught, but most if not all my experience is from hard knocks and just giving things a try....
I am fortunate to still be here since some of the lessons were of my stupid youth. Like if you are inserting live primers into your shotgun cast slugs, then do not collect them after shooting to recast in order to save on lead. Yep, first set of eyebrows gone. I've had help along the way. A consummate reader, I poured over anything and everything gun and reloading oriented. Then there was registered trap followed by lifetime membership in the NSSA and skeet burning over a case of ammo per week. Other shooting sports came along the way and finally ended in a run at single action shooting in SASS.
I apprenticed with several (well now it actually was only three) gunsmiths of my home area and learned a lot about heat treatment and guns in general. I couldn't get enough. I also developed my own interests in what I liked in a gun. Believe me I've been through the lot of them including holding an FFL for a number of years and working as a custom smith during the PPC heyday. This work was mainly on fellow department employees in a job that went from totting a Smith model 67 and a Mini-14 to the latest Glock with the most current incarnation of AR-15. So when I say I've seen my share of guns, I really have.
At the start of things (the only time save the Thunder Five) I ever owned a number of Charter arms was when I was struggling to make ends meet or going to school/ both. A new Ruger was running around 175 bucks to Smith's 230-240 and at the same time, if you didn't mind shopping at the local pawn shop (new guns mind you) you could get a Charter Arms revolver for around 35 to fifty bucks depending upon model.
That should tell you a LOT right then and there. Charter selling for only 20 percent of what a regular guys firearm normally cost (meaning Ruger) and only fourteen percent of what the better than average guy could afford. You get what you pay for. Yes they were sloppy, ill fitting and did indeed rattle, but they were only thirty five bucks and I could own five of them for the cost of one competitor's models. That and only that is the reason a well versed gun guy would ever put his hands on one straight out of the box.
Now put a bunch of work into one and it could easily slik up quite nicely, however it will never top the others mentioned since it is so far in arrears from the get go.
Then came the Thunder Five deal. I just had to see how close I could come to the 410 revolver that the state Government said that I couldn't have. So the next best thing was 45/70. Seemed close, right and if you modify a set of 45/70 dies (I won't say how) you can quite simply produce brass (hobby store brass sheet stock) inserts that allow the shooting of 410 shells in a 45/70 chamber. Too close to being illegal and with a high security job in my view, I sold it all and concentrated on getting the job and passing my first academy.
So there you have it. Take it for what it's worth. I stand by my rattle story and stand by the reason I bought such rattling pieces of weaponry. Smithy.