Chiefs Special 9mm

I pocket carried the CS9 and CS45 for over 15 years with no problems. Fortunately, I have not even had to brandish them yet (Maybe big and ugly is good front line protection?), but they also are accurate and fun to shoot at the range. I think these guns were under rated during their production years. I still prefer them to the small polymer Guards and M&Ps. I hope that you enjoy safely carrying and shooting your CS9 (at the range).
 

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Good eye. ;)

Yep, in the first pic (CS9) that's one of the original 3913TSW butt plates.

In the last pic (CS45) it's one of the original 4513TSW butt plates.

Just for the 9mm butt plates I've used ...

In this pic, from L-to-R, standard curved, standard flat, and original 3913TSW butt plate.


Standard flat and original TSW.


L-R, TSW, standard flat and standard curved.


Seated in gun ...

Standard flat.



Curved.


TSW/wide.
 
Thanks. The one thing I didn't like about the CS9 was the "hook" on the curved base plate. I always felt that it was causing my shirt to ride up.

Of course, in a pocket, that would be less of an issue.
 
Jeppo the grip frame, mag well, backstrap under the grips, grips, grip screws, sear and sear pin are what took the most time to clean. The frame had black marks under the trigger guard and dustcover. They took a bit of time to clean too. But they came off.

Im pretty sure it was not dried coffee and powdered sugar, but it was a finegrime that adhered to......well....everything. And I found shavings and tiny pieces of that cheap "pleather" that Safariland use to use in the late 80s and 90s on their LE holsters. Well, they used it till agencies stopped buying them. ;)

Someone wanted to see pics. Here they are. It is wearing the rounded TSW mag baseplate as that is the one that works for pocket carry, for me. The finger lift mag snagging on the draw. Again, for me. Regards 18DAI
 

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I used a red colored penetrative CLP that we get from Nighthawk. Soaked it in that while I was at work.

Cleaned the barrel and slide with Breakfree and lubed with TW25b grease.

After the grips were clean I sprayed them with 409 and wiped them dry with a micro fiber towel. New recoil spring and its GTG.

Well........except for the outstanding TercGen grips that I have on order. ;) :) Regards 18DAI
 
Maybe somebody should suggest that S&W use some of that surplus manufacturing talent (surplus because revolvers aren't selling and plastic guns don't require much talent) to reintroduce a limited series of their best metal semi-autos. I'll bet they'd sell AND be profitable.
 

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From what I've seen, S&W is still pumping out large numbers of J frame guns. They ARE selling a lot of 1911s. Plus, those plastic guns have slides and barrels that need some machining. K, L, N, and X frames are being built, but not in the quantities that they were at one time.

If that's not enough, S&W puts their forge and CNC machines to work making products for companies like Harley Davidson when not making gun parts.

While both 3913 and 4513 versions would be nice, I don't expect to see them being made again. Too bad, because we'd have a source of at least some parts and maybe even could have an older gun with a damaged frame replaced.

Maybe somebody should suggest that S&W use some of that surplus manufacturing talent (surplus because revolvers aren't selling and plastic guns don't require much talent) to reintroduce a limited series of their best metal semi-autos. I'll bet they'd sell AND be profitable.
 
While it would be nice to see S&W return to offering equivalent metal TDA pistols to compete with the better models produced by SIG, I'd not be inclined to hold my breath.

The drop of firearms sales from this time last year to this year has been significant. The strong elements of continuing sales in the non-governmental market remains pistols and long guns, although revolvers still seem to enjoy their usual market share. The M&P's are strong sellers.

S&W had enough interest in their higher revolver lines to expand back into offering them with wood grip stocks again (last year's report), and the J-frames are still reportedly a very strong seller.

In order to re-enter the 3rd gen pistol market again, S&W would probably have to keep using their Houlton plant for production and repair. That would cut into their 1911 and .22 production.

A PC version of a select number of 3rd gen models would be interesting, but no doubt expensive. It would also cut into their current PC revolver efforts.

Renewing 3rd gen production would drain money needed for other lines, as they'd have to reinvigorate their vendor supplies of parts (and no doubt make some further revisions to design and manufacturing), as well as expand their parts inventory for them again.

Never say never, but also don't hold your breath. Cross your fingers and hope, if you wish. :)

Maybe bear in mind that at one point S&W told some of their remaining longtime 3rd gen gov users, meaning NYPD, the RCMP and the CHP that they were not going to make any more of their guns, and they'd have to choose something else. Seemed pretty definitive, at the time.
 
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Maybe somebody should suggest that S&W use some of that surplus manufacturing talent (surplus because revolvers aren't selling and plastic guns don't require much talent) to reintroduce a limited series of their best metal semi-autos. I'll bet they'd sell AND be profitable.
Limited series means $900 plus. No thanks. GARY.
 

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