To me Frog Lube is like the oil threads I hear on motorcycle forums about Amaoil. If its so good why don't they sell it in stores or gun shops. Not saying it is not a good lube but again why not in the stores. Never had any issue with Hoppes solvent and Breakfree or CLP. I also use Tetra gun grease on the slids of my XDS 45
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Bkreutz
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I think that the decision to sell or not to sell is made by the gun shops. My gun shop and range sells it. I've seen it at other shops in the area. Maybe the reason many don't sell it is like a lot of other products in this internet age. When you can buy it with a click at Amazon.com for 30% less and have it in 2 days, most buyers do that instead of their LGS. I'm assuming you were talking about Amsoil and that Amaoil is a typo, I'm not sure if that's a good analogy. (not going to get into that "discussion" and I'll leave my opinion about that to myself
) I started out with Hoppes many years ago, then I discovered Breakfree in the early 80's, recently I've started using Froglube. Technology changes, if I find something that I think works better, I'm not trapped by "tradition". I now shoot a half plastic pistol, something I wouldn't have imagined me doing only a few years ago.I think that the decision to sell or not to sell is made by the gun shops. My gun shop and range sells it. I've seen it at other shops in the area. Maybe the reason many don't sell it is like a lot of other products in this internet age. When you can buy it with a click at Amazon.com for 30% less and have it in 2 days, most buyers do that instead of their LGS. I'm assuming you were talking about Amsoil and that Amaoil is a typo, I'm not sure if that's a good analogy. (not going to get into that "discussion" and I'll leave my opinion about that to myself
We have a huge variety of gun stores and gun shops and I have never yet seen it. But I'm also not having any issues with cleaning and the lubes that I use so don't feel the need to change. I've seen and read there are so many different comments about what lube for your gun on many of the gun forums that hey, what ever works for one that's what they should use. I don't use Amsoil in my motorcycle either.
Johnson's paste wax for a 1/4 of the price of this frog stuff.
Use it on the metal and wood of all my firearms as a protectant and cleaner.
Been using it for over 20 yrs. with no problems.
I also use it as a release agent when bedding rifle stocks.
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Use it on the metal and wood of all my firearms as a protectant and cleaner.
Been using it for over 20 yrs. with no problems.
I also use it as a release agent when bedding rifle stocks.
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Shoot, I used that wax when I was glass bedding muzzleloader stocks and never thought of using it for handgun lube and cleaner, good tip will give it a try, thanks.
M-Pro 7 cleaner+Frog Lube Paste
M-Pro cleaner will not break down the Frog Lube. Some solvents will break down the Frog Lube and you lose the long term benefits that Amedeus mentioned in his post.
I use a hot gun to heat up the metal parts of the gun after disassembly and cleaning. Apply Froglube paste with acid brush and let sit for and cool for awhile. Wipe off excess and reassemble.
M-Pro cleaner will not break down the Frog Lube. Some solvents will break down the Frog Lube and you lose the long term benefits that Amedeus mentioned in his post.
I use a hot gun to heat up the metal parts of the gun after disassembly and cleaning. Apply Froglube paste with acid brush and let sit for and cool for awhile. Wipe off excess and reassemble.
N4KVE
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This is the stuff I use on all my guns. GARY
I started with Hoppes #9 & Valvoline 10W30 lube, then Breakfree CLP & now FrogLube. I wouldn't hesitate using any of those today with FrogLube at the top of my list. I never had a problem with any of them.
LSWC
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Joe's Red Army Tier-One Operator Lube
Mixed up half a batch of this stuff - seems to work well and the price is right.
pdb : I'm just this guy.
Mixed up half a batch of this stuff - seems to work well and the price is right.
pdb : I'm just this guy.
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Whatever you do, don't fall for the Frog Lube hype. A lot of the posts about it are made by people working for the company that makes it. It has been shown to increase wear in guns because a gun's surfaces must heat up first and create friction (i.e. wear) before the lube begins to work. Whatever you do, don't use it in an AR-15.
Years ago the message boards were full of people hyping Militec-1 dry lube. Then the Department of Defense tested the product and discovered it was a substandard product. Mind you that Militec-1 was hyping how it was used by the military. Where did all those Militec-1 pushers go?
Years ago the message boards were full of people hyping Militec-1 dry lube. Then the Department of Defense tested the product and discovered it was a substandard product. Mind you that Militec-1 was hyping how it was used by the military. Where did all those Militec-1 pushers go?
Harrison
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Cleaning = Ed's Red
Lube = Mobile One 5w-30/ATF
Secondary = Ballistol for everything
Lube = Mobile One 5w-30/ATF
Secondary = Ballistol for everything
Side by Side
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I've been using FROGLUBE for three years, no wear, easy clean up! I'm sold on it. I use it on my AR-10 and 1911's. Great stuff!!! I don't work for FROGLUBE but it works Great for ME!!!
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mistahd
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Do you have any link(s) for that testing/data? I have recently started using it on my guns and if it has been shown to increase wear I am sure myself as well as many other users may think twice about its continued use on our guns. I am a new gun owner and do not want to cause any expedited wear on them if I can avoid it?
Tarkan
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Hi there,
well I'm using gunbutter on my M&P 22 pistol! Really great stuff and very easy to apply with those "needle" tips they use. No problems with any kind of ammo I feed it and lets itself be cleaned real easy after shooting
gr Tarkan
well I'm using gunbutter on my M&P 22 pistol! Really great stuff and very easy to apply with those "needle" tips they use. No problems with any kind of ammo I feed it and lets itself be cleaned real easy after shooting
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Hoppes No 9 solvent and break free CLP for lube have always worked for me, so I see no reason to change.
Ditto that. Won't be going back. Hard to find any negative reviews of FL.
You will for sure miss the smell of Hoppe once you open/spray your parts with that Ballistol
My LGS sells Hoppes scented car air fresheners, that'll solve that problem!
Guess I'm old school but I still use Hoppes for cleaning and lube plus carry a Hoppes silicon treated towel for a quick wipe down.
Bkreutz
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Read post 46 of this thread (I use FL too) but there are other opinions.
For the Stainless guns, Hoppes #9, Weapon Shield, and Hornady Gun Cleaner & Dry Lube. If it's really gross I'll hose it down with Birchwood Casey Synthetic Gun Scrubber first.
For the Nickle M29, MPro7 Gun Cleaner and Weapon Shield. Harry also gets a coat of Renaissance Wax at the end.
For the Nickle M29, MPro7 Gun Cleaner and Weapon Shield. Harry also gets a coat of Renaissance Wax at the end.
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Just keep it away from Nickel.
SmurfHunter
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I've always used hoppes cleaner and lube. Clp for quick jobs.
Why does everyone like Hoppes 9 over Hoppes Elite? I like Elite cleaner it dries and dissolves almost like a degreaser taking all the carbon and gunk with it, if it's heavy carbon build up then Elite will foam up and really go to work, it leaves no trace of liquid behind so you have a complete dry surface to apply your favorite lube. I may run some #9 through the bore for heavy build up but the Elite cleaner combined with Hoppes Elite oil or FP10 also make clean up a breeze after you have used it a couple times.
I'm not dissing #9 I've used it for years but once I started using Elite I never looked back give it a shot but realize its a cleaner not a CLP so you will need a good oil because it dissolves everything and then totally dries up within seconds.
For lube I really prefer Shooter Choice FP10 it's thick enough to not dry up after a week of daily carry but not to thick to cause serious build up, it also smells like cinnamon. Hoppes Elite T3 is another one I like as well but there are many good lube choices I don't have a problem using most of them.
For grease I've always had great results with Tetra, my XDs and PF9 loved it.
There are many good cleaners and great lubes but I found the hardest thing to find was a copper remover for the rifling in the barrel, many advertise "Copper Cleaner" but they really don't do any better than the regular gun cleaner for getting copper out so it's a bit of trial and error. I went trhough many copper cleaners before I found Birchwood Casey Bore Scrubber 2 in 1. It is as advertised and will remove copper and it will also remove the brass marks you get on your slide but the down side is it has that horrible smell, good news is I don't use it that often just when my bore gets lots of copper build up or I get brass marks on my slide that I want off.
I'm not dissing #9 I've used it for years but once I started using Elite I never looked back give it a shot but realize its a cleaner not a CLP so you will need a good oil because it dissolves everything and then totally dries up within seconds.
For lube I really prefer Shooter Choice FP10 it's thick enough to not dry up after a week of daily carry but not to thick to cause serious build up, it also smells like cinnamon. Hoppes Elite T3 is another one I like as well but there are many good lube choices I don't have a problem using most of them.
For grease I've always had great results with Tetra, my XDs and PF9 loved it.
There are many good cleaners and great lubes but I found the hardest thing to find was a copper remover for the rifling in the barrel, many advertise "Copper Cleaner" but they really don't do any better than the regular gun cleaner for getting copper out so it's a bit of trial and error. I went trhough many copper cleaners before I found Birchwood Casey Bore Scrubber 2 in 1. It is as advertised and will remove copper and it will also remove the brass marks you get on your slide but the down side is it has that horrible smell, good news is I don't use it that often just when my bore gets lots of copper build up or I get brass marks on my slide that I want off.
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