CMMG joins LEO Boycott

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CMMG, INC. ANNOUNCES NEW POLICY ON STATE REGULATION OF FIREARMS

The Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution and all law abiding gun owners in our country are currently under assault. Since the horrible tragedy in Connecticut, politicians and media alike are actively demonizing and criminalizing citizens of these great United States who are exercising their rights under the Second Amendment. The emotional responses and decisions being made right now are extremely dangerous and short sighted.

As individual states elect to pass more restrictive gun laws, CMMG will adhere to each state’s regulations. However, CMMG has made a policy decision that it will not supply products to law enforcement agencies in states that have enacted legislation preventing individual citizens from owning similar firearms. CMMG will no longer provide these agencies with firearms, magazines or any other products that are restricted or no longer available to civilians. CMMG will not stand by on the sidelines and let America’s rights be stripped away. CMMG will not support states that have police departments and law enforcement agencies arming themselves with firearms and weapons that are not available to law abiding citizens. CMMG does not believe in separate classes of citizens and will not engage in sales to states that enact legislation promoting that belief.

CMMG will, however, make exceptions to police departments and law enforcement agencies that have taken a public stand refusing to recognize or enforce unconstitutional firearm restrictions. Agencies making this stand are putting their careers on the line to take a constitutional stand for all Americans as fellow citizens. Abraham Lincoln spoke on June 16, 1858, and stated that "a house divided against itself cannot stand;” CMMG supports those who support our freedom.

CMMG, as industry partners, and gun owners (including law enforcement agencies), need to stand up and stand together to counter this assault on our freedom and our constitutional rights. The Constitution is the supreme legal authority in our land, and we are bound by its words. It states in the Preamble that it was written to "form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity.” The Founding Fathers agreed the best way to establish this was through the Bill of Rights which includes the Second Amendment. Let us take this stand together, unified, to continue allowing this country to be the beacon of freedom to the world.

 

[Gopher Slayer]

 

[515DSM]

"The emotional responses and decisions being made right now are extremely dangerous and short sighted."

Hmmm like the emotional response to put LEOs that have nothing to do with this issue in harms way so you can prove a point....
Nothing says told you so like a family and a department loosing a loved one.

 

[Brett248Vista]

"The emotional responses and decisions being made right now are extremely dangerous and short sighted."

Hmmm like the emotional response to put LEOs that have nothing to do with this issue in harms way so you can prove a point....
Nothing says told you so like a family and a department loosing a loved one.

Sorry but I SIDE with the Manufacturers. We The People need a force to stand against our own Elected Officials. If it means that Manufacturers cut off Local, State and Federal Level Organizations of Munitions, So be it! This in turn should be a wake up call to all of the LEO's and LEA's to stand with us.

In before the lock!

 

[vipermd]

I have to agree with manufacturers, Even though friends and family are LEO, we need them to stand with us. Talk to NYPD officers and ask them about cuomo's response to their duty weapons becoming illegal?? I would like to see S&W, Glock, Sig, Taurus, Ruger, Colt all stop selling/servicing all duty firearms in states where it would be illegal for a citizen to own the same weapon or magazine. If this means that cuomo's protection detail is UNARMED so much the better. Emotion? No fact, the Government state/fed can make any law that they choose despite what people want,while they will still have their protection. If removing their protection is the only way to have them look at reality instead of EMOTION than so be it. We must make a stand, and need all manufacturers to follow, otherwise the gov's will continue with business as usual. Be Safe,

 

[RedNeck Jim]

Sorry but I SIDE with the Manufacturers. We The People need a force to stand against our own Elected Officials.

Excuse me but isn't that anarchy?

I know as an Air Force officer, I took an oath to obey all lawful orders and laws of the US. Do we really want law enforcement to pick & choose what laws they will obey? Just because we may disagree does not give us the right to disobey. Protest? Yes, but refuse to obey... no. Challenge the validity of the law in the courts? Yes, but not disobey.

 

[515DSM]

So if the coin were flipped and the LEOs decided not to respond to calls for assistance from factory workers of CMMG that would be completely fine? Or what if a mag malfunctioned because a department couldnt get a new one that ended up meaning you wife or kids were killed. Then would you feel high and mighty about your support for a company that intentionally puts officers AND YOUR life in danger because a group of people made a decision you didnt like? You have a problem with gun laws in the United States or your respective state move to sudan and have all the thirty round mags you want. Feel happy that you live in a country that has small limitations rather than a war torn hell scape.

 

[Xtasy]

So if the coin were flipped and the LEOs decided not to respond to calls for assistance from factory workers of CMMG that would be completely fine? Or what if a mag malfunctioned because a department couldnt get a new one that ended up meaning you wife or kids were killed. Then would you feel high and mighty about your support for a company that intentionally puts officers AND YOUR life in danger because a group of people made a decision you didnt like? You have a problem with gun laws in the United States or your respective state move to sudan and have all the thirty round mags you want. Feel happy that you live in a country that has small limitations rather than a war torn hell scape.

You Sir should read the constitution. I should move away because my government gives a XXXX about our constitution? I think we are very clear who is the problem or?

Excuse me but isn't that anarchy?

No that is not anarchy.

I know as an Air Force officer, I took an oath to obey all lawful orders and laws of the US

And to upheld the constitution.

Do we really want law enforcement to pick & choose what laws they will obey?

Yes they have to when it goes against the constitution or other rights.
A soldier can not just shoot somebody because his officer give him the order.

Protest? Yes, but refuse to obey... no. Challenge the validity of the law in the courts? Yes, but not disobey.

Sometimes the people have to show government who really is in power and that just works with refusing to cooperate. I wish the american people would stick more together as one and organize huge peaceful demonstrations. If that does not work we can do it the European/French way..

 

[Shooterjgs]

Yea when I was in the Army an order was obeyed not questioned and that was alright with me... now an order can be questioned... mabe that's the attitude that should be taken in this situation...

 

[515DSM]

Sometimes the people have to show government who really is in power and that just works with refusing to cooperate. I wish the american people would stick more together as one and organize huge peaceful demonstrations. If that does not work we can do it the European/French way..[/QUOTE]

The people did decide they voted the President and Governors and senate members that voted this all in. You sir are talking about terrorism and i can only hope that you are put on a list somewhere in a government computer and tracked for your treasonous statements.

 

[jajo]

Excuse me but isn't that anarchy?

I know as an Air Force officer, I took an oath to obey all lawful orders and laws of the US. Do we really want law enforcement to pick & choose what laws they will obey? Just because we may disagree does not give us the right to disobey. Protest? Yes, but refuse to obey... no. Challenge the validity of the law in the courts? Yes, but not disobey.

There is due process in place to change or amend the Constitution of the United States. Our duly elected officials have chosen to bypass the amendment process and use legislation and Executive Order to modify the rights granted under the Constitution. Isn't that the bureaucratic equivalent of anarchy?


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[Xtasy]

The people did decide they voted the President and Governors and senate members that voted this all in. You sir are talking about terrorism and i can only hope that you are put on a list somewhere in a government computer and tracked for your treasonous statements.

That does not mean that we are helpless when our own government starts fighting against its people. That exactly is the reason why we have the constitution and the 2nd amendment.

I see it as governmental terrorism when our officials ,who took the oath, are not respecting the constitution.

Your posts , as are mine, are protected by soldiers like me and millions of other who are taking the constitution very serious

 

[Brett248Vista]

Sometimes the people have to show government who really is in power and that just works with refusing to cooperate. I wish the american people would stick more together as one and organize huge peaceful demonstrations. If that does not work we can do it the European/French way..

The people did decide they voted the President and Governors and senate members that voted this all in. You sir are talking about terrorism and i can only hope that you are put on a list somewhere in a government computer and tracked for your treasonous statements.

The line of treason has already been crossed by our elected officials. I don't have hundreds of millions of dollars to fight them, politically but rest assured the manufacturers as a collective, do!

I think one of our elected officials said "you don't need an AR15, a shotgun works just fine". Well, all Officers already carry those, so they are good to go.

Right?

 

[RedNeck Jim]

There is due process in place to change or amend the Constitution of the United States.

Exactly. Just as there is due process to throw out laws that might be unconstitutional. Point is, disobeying a law goes AGAINST the Constitution. At this point, not a single law that has been passed, such as in NY, is unconstitutional. It is not up to you, me or CMMG to make that determination. The rule of law, as established by the Constitution & the Bill of Rights, does that.

CMMG has every right to choose whom to sell to, even if by doing so they endanger the safety of the public. CMMG does not have some right to determine which laws are constitutional.

How can folks here be concerned about 2nd Amendment rights and yet at the same time state our law enforcement officials need to be disobeying laws? That really makes sense to you? You just want to cherry pick which parts of the Constitution you wish to follow today?

 

[515DSM]

Why cant you just let the courts deal with this (also in the constitution) like a real American rather than 3rd world radical with you anti government attitude. You are all supporting people being killed over a piece of plastic with a spring.

 

[Xtasy]

Point is, disobeying a law goes AGAINST the Constitution.

Not if the law itself goes against the constitution. Just because a court says that the law is constitutional does not means that it actually is.

How can folks here be concerned about 2nd Amendment rights and yet at the same time state our law enforcement officials need to be disobeying laws?

They are disobeying the law but for the good of the people and their rights. That is totally different then LE taking away rights from citizens because they feel like

 

[Xtasy]

Why cant you just let the courts deal with this (also in the constitution) like a real American rather than 3rd world radical with you anti government attitude. You are all supporting people being killed over a piece of plastic with a spring.

Why do you want to trust somebody blindly ? I don't say that currently the courts are a danger for the american people but the day where we stop checking them, there will be a risk they might turn on us.

Just imagine Mrs. Feinstein would be a judge... I would be horrified

 

[looseman]

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.--Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.

 

[don5]

This thread probably should be moved off of this forum. I realize everyone is being professional and civil but this forum is about the 1522. Moderator will probably move it.
On a side note personally i think cmmg and other companies have the right to refuse service to whomever they want as long as they do not discriminate. Just my 2 cents. Good for them and I am going elsewhere in the forum. Too much other stuff to look at.

 

[RedNeck Jim]

Not if the law itself goes against the constitution.

Please show me a reference in our laws that states such a thing. Where does the Constitution state Xtasy or CMMG gets to decide if a law is constitutional? There is a process to make that determination.

They are disobeying the law but for the good of the people and their rights. That is totally different then LE taking away rights from citizens because they feel like

Once again, I don't want your opinion but I want fact. Please show me where the Constitution allows Xtasy, or any group or individual, to disobey any law just because they think it is for the good of the people.

Folks, we are all opinionated & thank God we live in a country that allows such. However, you can't run a country based upon every single person's opinion. You run a country by following the Constitution & the rule of law. I'm sure others will follow that document & challenge these laws properly.