BigBill
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If you really want a USGI 1911a1 from the lend lease, refurbed and sold to us go for it. Congrats.
I'm happy with the new USGI models.
I'm happy with the new USGI models.
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Since it has been brought up in the Forum and the discussion is out there, I haven't heard anything from CMP yet and still unsure of the process or if I'm out of the lottery. Looks like a few of you have been contacted. Has it been by email? If by phone, is it a robot call, my phone aborts them, or a real human? Thanks
Since it has been brought up in the Forum and the discussion is out there, I haven't heard anything from CMP yet and still unsure of the process or if I'm out of the lottery. Looks like a few of you have been contacted. Has it been by email? If by phone, is it a robot call, my phone aborts them, or a real human? Thanks
ek609
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1911A1
What number were you in the lottery? I am in the low 6000 and am being told it will be 60-90 days so I just want to know about where they are. Thanks
ek609
What number were you in the lottery? I am in the low 6000 and am being told it will be 60-90 days so I just want to know about where they are. Thanks
ek609
They call when they reach your number. 256 area code. Your random number in the lottery will be sent by email. It was two months after my email that I got called to pay for the gun. A week after the call, it was in my hands. They sent me an email on Tuesday saying it shipped and I had it on Wednesday.
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clem
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ser. num.
Your M1911 #1170249, was made by Colt in 1943. Serial number range; 1088725 - 1208673.
Your M1911 #1170249, was made by Colt in 1943. Serial number range; 1088725 - 1208673.
charlie sherrill
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I received my lottery number (36XX) last Dec. 19. I haven't gotten the call yet. My son applied at the same time I did and he did not receive a number so we're guessing he's out. At the rate they're going I should hear from them in the next few days. We own three, two RR's, both RA and one original conditioned Ithaca that appears unissued. I haven't shot the Ithaca, have shot the RR's, and will shoot whatever comes from CMP. Clinton also shipped a lot of Winchester mod 97 shotguns to Camp Shelby, Ms. to be destroyed while he was in office. Nothing was salvaged from them, not even a handguard/bayonet lug.
USGI 1911A1's are in the same boat as M1 Garands when it comes to "originality". They were built to have interchangeable parts for ease of repair in the field or depot. The vast majority of them have gone through at least one arsenal rebuild. Lots of folks strive to piece together what they consider an original configuration, and that's okay with me, but really, how many of these tools survived service/use/issue without receiving some service or replacement parts? Personally, I am quite happy with several rebuild 1911's and Garands in my possession..... they saw service and went back in the ring to do it all again. Honestly, I know of only one 1911A1 that was not refurbished - that's the one that the supply sergeant gave to my father as he was processing out at Camp Lee VA immediately following WWII. The balance remain in question to me. Don't get me wrong, I truly love my rebuilds ...... and the price on a nice rebuild on the open market is nothing to sneeze at these days (even before the CMP sales started).
sigp220.45
US Veteran
Very nice! I'm still waiting on my number - they are up to the 6000s now and they say they'll only have about 6500 pistols for this year's allottment, so it looks like next year is the soonest I'll get my grubbies on one.
Actually they went over 7500 today, but some say that they started the numbers at 1000. So they are really up to 6500. But.... There is a post today that cites a GAO review of the project which estimates that there are going to be something like 7500 pistols able to be sold. Only a few that are suitable for the auction, and on,y a few that are not worthy of being sold. Sounds pretty good to me. And it looks certain that all 19,000 are going to get a number, and they will just start selling to the first person that was at the end of this years numbers. If all that makes any sense. It's been a long day for me, and I'm just rambling....
Hers a link to the pertinent thread: http://forums.thecmp.org/showthread.php?t=241370
Best Regards, Les
Hers a link to the pertinent thread: http://forums.thecmp.org/showthread.php?t=241370
Best Regards, Les
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I was sent an email that gave me my lottery number. It also said they would call me and don't call them.
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Not at all.
Numbers were assigned randomly, not chronologically by date received.
He's still in.
I was referring to the market that has existed long before this recent CMP sale. The same market that actually made the pistol you just purchased cost over $1K when it would have sold for around $20.00 back in the 1970's. I understand that not everybody owns these pistols for the same reason but there are a LOT of people out there that also look at them as more of a financial investment in addition to their historical significants.
No one is wrong or better for their particular interest over anyone else. Variety is what makes the world go round.
For instance....
Colt 1911 No. 347 ALL ORIGINAL! C&R Okay - Curios & Relics at GunBroker.com : 797834707)
I was referring to the market that has existed long before this recent CMP sale. The same market that actually made the pistol you just purchased cost over $1K when it would have sold for around $20.00 back in the 1970's. I understand that not everybody owns these pistols for the same reason but there are a LOT of people out there that also look at them as more of a financial investment in addition to their historical significants.
No one is wrong or better for their particular interest over anyone else. Variety is what makes the world go round.
For instance....
Colt 1911 No. 347 ALL ORIGINAL! C&R Okay - Curios & Relics at GunBroker.com : 797834707)
The introduction of the CMP 1911's into the market will probably have an impact on the cost of a real GI 1911, but I don't care. I don't see myself ever selling it and I highly doubt they're ever gonna go below the $1050 I paid. If they do, so be it. With the current political climate I don't see the sales continuing for long anyway. They only get to sell up to 10,000 a year and this year only chose to sell 8000 for some reason.
But whatever. I acknowledge an all correct GI 1911 is worth more. But the last one was made in 1945. So the guys carrying them in Korea and Vietnam and all the skirmishes before and since, more than likely had a mixmaster arsenal rebuild.
CMP 1911
After reading the CMP 1911 forum, all 19,000 who put in the papers will get a number, and sooner or later will get a call to buy a 1911. I have not got my number yet but check email every two hours..Look at the photos of the 1911s people are getting on the CMP forum.
After reading the CMP 1911 forum, all 19,000 who put in the papers will get a number, and sooner or later will get a call to buy a 1911. I have not got my number yet but check email every two hours..Look at the photos of the 1911s people are getting on the CMP forum.
You are not out..
If you mailed a packet in you will get a number, if packet did not have right paper work {no FFL ect.} CMP will steal call to fix the problem...
If you mailed a packet in you will get a number, if packet did not have right paper work {no FFL ect.} CMP will steal call to fix the problem...
Frank46
US Veteran
I have a 1943 Ithaca that I got from a WWII veteran. Has that dark green parkerization on it. From what I can see of the OP's Colt it looks like it should get a coat of oil. I saw the video that the NRA did when they were getting ready to check all makes and serial number checks. Just about everyone looked like his. You got your money's worth that's for sure. Beautiful 45. Frank
That 85,000 number goes back to 85,000 total pieces being repatriated from the Philippine Armed Forces (it's a lengthy process - I just left Manila after 5 years there and we had been hearing about this through JUSMAG for the last couple of years). The deal is that the weapons are a mix of Garands, 1911A1s, Thompsons, BARs (M1918A3 with the rate-of-fire selector), M-1 & M-2 carbines, M1919A4 & A6 LMGs, and M3s. They won't be all pistols, and many of the repatriated weapons (all of the full-auto) will have to be destroyed, or at least the receivers destroyed, rather than released. They are Korean War vintage, which will include some WW II rebuilds; all are un-issued (to the AFP) and in cosmoline.
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BigBill
Absent Comrade
I come from the military surplus collecting First originality first. It even counts to be orginal with the Chinese sks collectors. All of these guys are very fussy. I wonder what price they would be not refurbished? I'm sure the ones in the click with CMP get the best ones.
I'm sure. I've heard some people from military forums get first pick from some of the importers in order to get good reviews.
hoss@fol43
Member
According to the CMP site Auctions for 1911A1's will begin in late 2019. Those should be the really nice ones that CMP has picked out to auction at a much higher price than the grades currently being sold for. If you already have received your mix-master or have agreed to accept one of the service grades you can't get in on the ones up for auction. You had to specify if you wanted to wait for the auction pieces. CMP did the same thing with the M1A1 original paratrooper folding stock carbines, which went for much more at auction prices than the service or rack grade carbines.
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Nice! I am curious as to what the ANAD 7 76 stamping behind the trigger on the right side stands for. I assume the 7 76 is a date but have no idea of what the ANAD means.
Nice! I am curious as to what the ANAD 7 76 stamping behind the trigger on the right side stands for. I assume the 7 76 is a date but have no idea of what the ANAD means.
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An entry level GI clone from Kahr or RIA (the RIA one has the gaudy lettering in white on the slide) is what, $500? You think a 75 year old weapon that was issued to American GI's should cost as much as a clone made in either Brazil or the Philippine's?
Is the price high? Maybe a tad. To even get these things the CMP has to jump through many hoops. Building a separate building and vault to house them. Staff to sort and grade them. Staff to go through 19,000 applications and verify their correctness, then individually call everybody to get payment and ship the guns. Some of the guns will be rack and field grade which will cost less, but be in worse condition. I wasn't interested in those.
I'm normally a pretty frugal guy. Sold off a few guns I had to pay for this piece of history. But to me, there's no comparison between a foreign made budget MIM parts having GI clone to a gun that has been there and done that. Whether it stormed the beach at Normandy or guarded Quonset huts filled with dirty GI underwear, it did so while on the hip of an American GI. And that is enough to warrant the couple hundred bucks more than you feel they are worth, to me.
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