Combat custom revolvers
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tipoc
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Thanks and happy new year!
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Catshooter
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Kwill1911,
Your photo of your 1917 is my wall paper. Got any other pics of it? Huh, huh, pretty please?
Cat
Your photo of your 1917 is my wall paper. Got any other pics of it? Huh, huh, pretty please?
Cat
Don K.
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tipoc, that is quite possibly the most beautiful revolver i have ever seen! Thanks to everyone involved in this thread. Where could a novice like myself learn more about these guns, as well as newer versions such as magna-pots etc.?
What a great book that would be, just customized combat revolvers!
What a great book that would be, just customized combat revolvers!
HE_OFFICER
Member
I took her apart this week and administered a through degumming, and de-rusting to the mechanism. I even got everything back together and functioning properly. It's amazing how some of the springs and pins look like brand new after removing over 80 years worth of crap from them. It's supposed to have been made in around 1918.
I'm a little hesitant to shoot it though after discovering "4F 45" electric penciled on the side of the cylinder.
How do you determine if a piece like this is safe to shoot?
Win712
Member
I posted this revolver last week in the pre-45 page. These modifications were done by a Detroit Police Officer in the 1930's. I just obtained this 1917 made in 1918 from the DPD officer's son a couple of weeks ago. Greg
Kwill1911,
That is possibly one of the nicest firearms I have ever seen. The story and newspaper clipping only adds to the whole package.
Not that I probably need to say it, but please keep that forever and pass it on to someone who will appreciate it for what it is worth, not how much money it might bring.
Again, very, very cool and thanks.
That is possibly one of the nicest firearms I have ever seen. The story and newspaper clipping only adds to the whole package.
Not that I probably need to say it, but please keep that forever and pass it on to someone who will appreciate it for what it is worth, not how much money it might bring.
Again, very, very cool and thanks.
Snapping Twig
Member
No doubt you're tired of seeing this image.
This is my version of a custom combat revolver.
Forgot to mention - the trigger guard is thinned like the revolver pictured a page or so back. If you look to the right of the shotgun shell prop, you can see it.
I had it made from a 8 3/8" 629-2 with an original 3" LH barrel, Predator package from Mag-Na-Port and a couple of my own specifications including, 11 degree forcing cone for lead, dual ball bearing crane detente and Trijicon night sights.
For those that don't like/believe in Mag-Na-Porting, let me assure you that in a short barrel it works and it works as advertized. I shoot 265g cast over 22g W296 with wood grips that fit me and it's pleasant. In my friends LH stock version I can't handle the same load, it's downright painful.
The preferred SD load for me is 7g W231 in a magnum case under a 240g cast SWC. Fast follow-up.
This is my version of a custom combat revolver.
Forgot to mention - the trigger guard is thinned like the revolver pictured a page or so back. If you look to the right of the shotgun shell prop, you can see it.
I had it made from a 8 3/8" 629-2 with an original 3" LH barrel, Predator package from Mag-Na-Port and a couple of my own specifications including, 11 degree forcing cone for lead, dual ball bearing crane detente and Trijicon night sights.
For those that don't like/believe in Mag-Na-Porting, let me assure you that in a short barrel it works and it works as advertized. I shoot 265g cast over 22g W296 with wood grips that fit me and it's pleasant. In my friends LH stock version I can't handle the same load, it's downright painful.
The preferred SD load for me is 7g W231 in a magnum case under a 240g cast SWC. Fast follow-up.
flop-shank
US Veteran
Mag-na-porting works, but remember, it works against you when firing from retention and does your hearing no favors! My large belt gun is mag-na-ported. It is a 5" 629-1 and I shoot a 165 gr. JHP handload that packs 1000 fpe. The full underlug barrel, porting and regular practice are what allow me to handle all that power. Firing from retention involves tilting the gun away from my face to about a sixty degree angle and aiming down for a pelvic shot. That's the way to avoid a face full of burning powder. I also wear eyeglasses.
I did not recognize the palm sap for what it was since I had never seen one before.
I do remember the longer saps since the TN Highway Patrol carried those in a custom made pocket on each side of their pants for years. I don't know if they still use those or not, but doubt it.
Any departments out there still using any type of sap? I would be surprised if they were.
I do remember the longer saps since the TN Highway Patrol carried those in a custom made pocket on each side of their pants for years. I don't know if they still use those or not, but doubt it.
Any departments out there still using any type of sap? I would be surprised if they were.
tipoc
Member
I have a Magna-Ported 629. I do not need to go through any contortions to use it. I do not get a face full of powder, nor burns, or anything else troublesome from it. I use the gun as I use others. It does help in rapid follow up shots with heavier loads. In pitch black the muzzle blast is brighter, bright enough to interfere with night vision. In dim light it has no such effect on me.
I'd post a pic or two but this thread is on the older custom guns so it'd be out of place.
tipoc
Wesprt
Member
Those palm saps were intresting.. In the old days if the smart aleck of the group got a little too mouthy the cop would give them a knockout slap. This looks pretty impressive to the onlookers as most of the time they didn't notice the sap to begin with. There are still a decent amount of depts that allow saps, I have a few custom saps and blackjacks that were made by two brothers in SC who are detectives and carry them on duty.
LadyFed
US Veteran
This one is my favorite; a Victory model cut down to 3 inches, round butt modification, and then carried as a backup by FBI Special Agent George Gillum from the late 1940's until his retirement in 1970. He served most of his career in Las Vegas on a Mafia TF. Looks like this revolver got some good use. It still shoots tight groups at 10 feet/gunfight range. Wish I could carry it in today's Bureau.
Eliza
Eliza
flop-shank
US Veteran
Contortion isn't an applicable term IMO. I'm only talking about shooting from retention. Have you practiced from retention with your ported gun? It's impractical where I shoot. Pictures are welcome. Your info is useful to me, tipoc.
AJMBLAZER
Member
I like that. What exactly does the round butt modification involve? Simply rounding off the edges?
stuccoman
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Recently did some work in trade for my first S&W .357 revolver model 19-5.Can anyone tell me what year it comes from ,or a link to get that kind of info? Any help appreciated! Thank's.
MKT
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Stuccoman,
This should really be in a separate post not tacked on to an ongoing discussion. In your new post be sure to include the serial number, either the entire number or all but the last 3 digits (using x's in lieu of the last the digits - abc1234/abc1XXX). You'll most likely get the information you seek.
stuccoman
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Thank's MKT. New to the use of fourm's.
Here's one of my favorites. It hasn't had any custom work done to it, but it is one of my favorite carry guns.
10-8 2 1/2"
10-8 2 1/2"
big50_1
Member
-depends what you will be using it for. If on the hip, outdoors, hard usage-hard chrome. If more casual usage-blue. Personally, with those nice grips, blue would set them off nicely.
AJMBLAZER
Member
I like it right now. I say one of those semi-matte hard chromes.
Papaw
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Dave, blue it.
Nanook 450
Member
Blue it . . . nice work.
MKT
Member
A high polish blue would look nice on that one.
tom turner
US Veteran
My 1980 custom revolver, a long barreled 25-2 in .45ACP. I second I saw it in a gun shop about 13 years ago I knew it was going home with me.
The work was done in Savannah back "in the day" by a gunsmith in Savannah who did this sort of stuff.
It has a truly amazing double action pull and a single action pull that breaks clean as glass at less than two pounds . . . both almost TOO light!
I wish I knew the name of the guy. He did a great job!
I later narrowed the super-wide, groove target trigger to smoothed, rounded and quite narrow for fast, double action use in tactical and bowling pin matches. I've won quite a few matches with this nimble, fast-from-the-holster wheelgun.
I also put on the new style cylinder latch. I HATE looking at it on that gun, but I'm left-handed and it greatly helped with fast reloading in matches.
Tom
The work was done in Savannah back "in the day" by a gunsmith in Savannah who did this sort of stuff.
It has a truly amazing double action pull and a single action pull that breaks clean as glass at less than two pounds . . . both almost TOO light!
I wish I knew the name of the guy. He did a great job!
I later narrowed the super-wide, groove target trigger to smoothed, rounded and quite narrow for fast, double action use in tactical and bowling pin matches. I've won quite a few matches with this nimble, fast-from-the-holster wheelgun.
I also put on the new style cylinder latch. I HATE looking at it on that gun, but I'm left-handed and it greatly helped with fast reloading in matches.
Tom
Cocked & Locked
Member
I've posted this before, but here it is again.
I acquired this 1917 Colt within the past year. It was owned by Dean Grennell's brother Ralph. The gun appears in two of Grennell's books from the early and late 1970's..."Book of the 45" and "Pistol and Revolver Digest."
In those books, it is stated that the custom work was done by John B Williams Gunsmithing in Fullerton California.
I acquired this 1917 Colt within the past year. It was owned by Dean Grennell's brother Ralph. The gun appears in two of Grennell's books from the early and late 1970's..."Book of the 45" and "Pistol and Revolver Digest."
In those books, it is stated that the custom work was done by John B Williams Gunsmithing in Fullerton California.
