Common Sense Self Defense.

[Rpg]

Gentlemen, this is quality advice. But consider what our society has come to. Now, instead of being able to have a calm discussion with the neighbor who simply may not realize the unrest he's creating, we just call the police.

This actually happened to me. Can't just walk away from my house now could I? It went on night after night.

Oh yeah, we called the police. Every night we called the police. They never came. What do we do then?

Rastof: I understand your dilemma.

Knocking on the neighbor's door at night with a weapon on your person when the neighbor is partying seems like a situation that can go bad in lots of ways.

Talking to the neighbor the next day, when the party's over and the sun is out seems much less likely to end badly.

Going down to the police station and filing a written complaint with dates and times might get some follow up next time you call.

Unfortunately, sometimes there are no good solutions.

 

[mikeasb]

I have met a few people that have cited carrying a gun has changed how they react with people simply based on the fact that any encounter is now an armed encounter.

Who the hell wants to have to shoot someone over something that started as an argument of a parking space or something stupid?

By definition, gun owners really have it in their self interest not to get into those situations that can escalate fast.

Whats the old saying "An armed society is a polite society?"

 

[Smoke]

So, what do you do? Just let people walk all over you?

Your neighbor is blasting music at 1am. Confront him or not?

If you are carrying a gun and they are NOT a threat to your life you damn betcha you do.

If I'm armed I can't afford to escalate ANY altercation I'm in

 

[Road Rat]

Knocking on the neighbor's door at night with a weapon on your person when the neighbor is partying seems like a situation that can go bad in lots of ways.

Did that once.........talk about breaking up a party!!!!

Never had a loud noise out of him again.

However, that was back in more calmer times!!! Would not even think of it today. . . . without LEO backup.

 

[Watchdog]

But this is teaching me the importance of watching how and what I say when these things happen. A gunfight can start with a few poorly chosen words or an argumentative tone of voice. It just does not pay to act or talk like a tough guy.

What you say is true.

Thing is, in the times we're living in now, all you have to do is be in the wrong place at the wrong time. You're a non-participant, but you get in the way of someone shooting at someone else. Doesn't matter if you're carrying or not. It's an almost daily occurrence where I live. Or you could just be a random victim of Mr. Drive By...sitting in your own house or on your front porch and someone drives by and sprays your house with bullets, just because they can. And they're gone on down the road before you can even find your phone to call 911.

It's very easy to veer off topic with this subject, so I'll just say that this stuff didn't happen when I was growing up, and let it go at that.

 

[PastureOfMuppets]

Gentlemen, this is quality advice. But consider what our society has come to. Now, instead of being able to have a calm discussion with the neighbor who simply may not realize the unrest he's creating, we just call the police.

This actually happened to me. Can't just walk away from my house now could I? It went on night after night.

Oh yeah, we called the police. Every night we called the police. They never came. What do we do then?

Same here. All day every day. Hence the conversation.

There is a way to go... call police and ask to speak to the duty sergeant. Explain the situation and point out that these are not people you are comfortable approaching.

If that doesn't work, neighbors need to call as well and at some point actually going to the station and speaking with the chief is something to do. Then his boss... the mayor. Police chief isn't voted in, mayor is.


There is a decibel limit in most cities under the noise ordinance. Look it up and contact the city itself.

Moving on... the kind of houses that are a nuisance are normally breaking other city ordinances and they can be plagued by different departments from the city.


Seriously, I have been dealing with one house now for seven years. Finally it has shut down... it was more than just music though.


I would seriously suggest anyone suffering to work their way up the chain of command with local PD first.

People that have never suffered it don't tend to understand what relentless loud music invading your home can do to the nervous system over time. People have killed each other over it, and although unacceptable there are some key things that push that kind of confrontation to a boiling point best avoided.

 

[getoff]

the whole "dis-respect" thing is ridicules. first you have to earn respect, then and only then can i "dis-respect" you. after years of totin' a gun, i am very wary to engage an angry or potentially stupid dope. i will always just smile and agree... while staged on my LCP. i do not reply to threats, or let myself be goaded into a road rage situation. i am happy to defend myself, my family and neighbors when needed. do i look to get involved? nope. will i if the need arises? yup. its what a man should do.

 

[federali]

Helicopters Overhead

The OP raises an excellent point that many might overlook. I live in a typical suburban neighborhood with a relatively low crime rate. However, when someone calls 911 to report a stranger or prowler, almost always after dark, Nassau PD dispatches a helicopter, that hovers overhead, searchlights blazing.

Residents often step outside to see what's going on when in fact, someone like Eric frein might be lurking behind the tool shed.

On those one or two nights a year that the police bird is overhead, I stay inside, make sure the doors are locked, arm myself, draw the drapes and stay away from the windows. Someone looking to evade police just might try a home invasion either to hide or to obtain a getaway car. If he picks my house, he's made a BIG mistake.

 

[Don 73]

Who was it that once said: "An armed society is a polite society."

Was it Franklin?

 

[Sayoc01]

Cssd

At first when I saw this title I thought it was one of Bram Frank's
Knife classes.I managed to learn alot from Bram...main thing was
disengage....you are armed(or should be)...you can cause a lot of harm....just walk away!!
Jim

 

[old bear]

I find it sad that we have to have this conversation. I find it even sadder that a segment of our society has such a low self esteem they believe it's necessary to shoot someone over a perceived slight. I don't know where or when wanton violence became an acceptable answer to every problem.

 

[Rastoff]

I find it sad that we have to have this conversation. I find it even sadder that a segment of our society has such a low self esteem they believe it's necessary to shoot someone over a perceived slight. I don't know where or when wanton violence became an acceptable answer to every problem.

Brother it's been this way since the dawn of man.

It's better to be smart than violent. Alas, people are selfish and they have always been willing to exert their larger size/force to get their way. Many (I wish it were just some) are too lazy to improve themselves so, they get what they want through force.

 

[Don 73]

Brother it's been this way since the dawn of man.

It's better to be smart than violent. Alas, people are selfish and they have always been willing to exert their larger size/force to get their way. Many (I wish it were just some) are too lazy to improve themselves so, they get what they want through force.

+1 to this and these days it's not just physical force, some of them are using litigation.

 

[7shooter]

My strategy when confronted by threatening creeps is to look as humble as possible and apologize for whatever transgression I am being accused of. I want to clearly establish myself as the innocent person in the eyes of any possible witnesses. The last few times I've done this the thug will talk himself out. For example last Christmas I was driving down a city street with my daughter who is an attorney and my 16 year old grandson who is second Dan black belt in a highly effective and lethal martial art when a wild eyed guy on a bicycle who appeared to be psychotic or on something like pcp rode up to my open window at a stop light and was screaming threats. I had no way to drive out of the situation. While preparing to break his arm if he tried to reach in my car I groveled. It worked. Nobody got hurt and I didn't have to deploy my grandson. My daughter was amazed at how calm I was but having spent most of my adult life on a locked psychiatric Ward I am used to threats.