HuntFish918
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I finally achieved the holy trinity when I won the auction on a K-32 Target Masterpiece!
They are not often listed for sale, and when they are you might have to sell one of your kidneys to buy it! There are online gun sellers (Gunbroker, etc.), ). Good luck!
I finally achieved the holy trinity when I won the auction on a K-32 Target Masterpiece!
Yes, 357's will shoot .38 Specials---no question about it!
So the question becomes shoot .38 specials to make noise---or scores?
Accuracy is all about a bullet passing through a bore and emerging in as pristine condition as possible. That's not going to happen shooting .38's from a Magnum. Problem #1 is that shoulder sitting just ahead of the .38 case mouth. It's going to do damage---a little or a lot. Problem #2 is the additional throat length encountered by the .38 in a Magnum. That translates into the .38 bullet entering the barrel at a higher speed than would be the case from a .38----and traveling further---skidding and sliding and becoming damaged a little or a lot before the rifling gets a hold of it.
If you'd like to see for yourself, get a machine rest (at less cost than pretty much any decent gun in your stash)-----and join the enlightened.
Or you can do what I did before a machine rest. I loaded up a Ruger Old Army with 20 grains of fff, an Uncle Mikes lubed wad, and a Speer .457" round ball---seats DEEP within the chamber---LOOOOOOOOOOONG throat. Then I sat down, held the gun with two hands on a rest, and let fly. That group measured just a tad over 4" at 25 yards. Then, after adding corn meal to the mix in 5 grain increments, I did it again--four times; ending up with 20 grains of corn meal under the bullet which was now seated flush with the end of the chamber---virtually ZERO throat. That group fit nicely in the X ring---fit under a quarter actually. The interim groups shrunk in an almost linear fashion.
Shoot .38's in a Magnum? Sure, they'll go bang.
Ralph Tremaine
I just thought of something that got my clock cleaned before I joined the "in-crowd"---way back when---shooting Bullseye. All of a sudden folks were showing up with some really weird looking guns---.38 Specials with cylinders the same length as a Wadcutter---and custom barrels set back into the window to meet the cylinder---as in ZERO throat!! NO FAIR!!!! Well, what the hell-----it's only money.
You are correct Ralph. I don't favor the idea of "letting the perfect be the enemy of the good". Particularly in a case like this where the OP specifically asked for a recommendation for a 38 special OR a .357 magnum revolver.It would seem you favor compromise over perfection. Fair enough. I, on the other hand, am not inclined to include "close enough" in my values. It's either as good as it can be, or it's lacking.
I spent a good deal of time racing sports cars during my (much) younger years. I didn't win a whole lot more races than I won---goes with the territory I reckon. But when I didn't win, it was because of the driver----me; not because of his equipment. His equipment was the best of the best---no compromises allowed---not even considered.
Same goes for shooting---I didn't win more matches than I did win, but my equipment was never the cause. It would never occur to me to consider substandard equipment.
Ralph Tremaine
It has always been my understanding that K 22 and the K 38 have different width ribs so, once loaded, they weigh nearly the same.
Originally, all Masterpiece revolvers had narrow ribs, offering different weights for different calibers. The narrow ribs were produced for just over 2 years. The factory approved wide ribbed K32s and K38s on 8/19/48 and the 1st K 38 Heavy Masterpiece was shipped on 2/4/49 serial number K66222 to Captain T. Thurmond Barrier, USMC. Below is a K38 narrow rib from 1948.
The Model 19 Classic is only available with a 4.25" barrel, so not really comparable to a K-22 Masterpiece/Model 17. An older Model 19 with the 6 inch barrel is a good choice if you think you might want to shoot some 357 Magnum loads. If you do not plan on shooting 357 Magnum ammo, the look for a K-38 Masterpiece/Model 14.Hello,
I'm interested in finding a companion S&W in .38 Spl or .357 Mag to go with my K-22 Masterpiece.
I now know the K-38 Masterpiece is that but I'm curious what you think about the Model 19 Classic being a viable candidate? Or should I scour the internet and gun shows for a K-38 Masterpiece and or a Model 14?
Just curious what you guys think.
Thank you!
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