Convince me to sell my Glocks and buy M&Ps to replace them

When the first gen Glock 17 came out, commercial sea urchin divers working the sea floor of the Farallon Islands, a notorious great white shark habitat 23 miles west of San Francisco, began carrying them on thigh holsters strapped to their wetsuits.
In 1990, when a diver was chomped on by a GWS, he manged to pull the Glock and discharge the entire magazine into the body of the shark. After being pulled back to the surface by the dive tender, he was airlifted by a Coast Guard chopper to a hospital where it took over 900 stitches to close his wounds.
The body of the 15' shark was found floating by another dive boat in the area and towed to SF Bay.
Lot to be respected about any handgun that will perform at 100% 40' deep in the ocean. Or in the mud of a battlefield. Glocks are pretty much the WW2 jeep of handguns.
 
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There is no comparison, 2.0 has the sear activated trigger mechanism, a totally better design, and 2 years of proven reliability, and the Apex kit just makes it even better. I love the Glock for the simplicity, I love the 1911 for the beauty and ergonomics. But for carry, and self-Defense. Well, you are on this forum, so you probably know.
 
The curveball to your question left out what has become my best option out there and that is SIG. Owning a few SIG’s from the past which include the 220, 229 and 239 with that first DA pull being heavy but also smooth, gravitated me to striker fired guns but I continued to look back... Then the 320 and 365 SIG’s came out and WOW! The modular concept of the 320 gives you caliber and grip options and with the 365 - size, accuracy and high cap mag benefits.
 
The curveball to your question left out what has become my best option out there and that is SIG. Owning a few SIG’s from the past which include the 220, 229 and 239 with that first DA pull being heavy but also smooth, gravitated me to striker fired guns but I continued to look back... Then the 320 and 365 SIG’s came out and WOW! The modular concept of the 320 gives you caliber and grip options and with the 365 - size, accuracy and high cap mag benefits.

I had a Sig 226 way back. Great gun but I just never got into it that much. I sold it to buy Glock's, as in multiple that is how much got for it.

When it comes to their polymer options, I am just not feeling it. First the P320 just feels huge, tall slide, big in hand, compared to a M&P or Glock in the same category. Also whatever plastic/polymer Sig is using just feels super cheap, like a toy gun.

Lastly SIG is trying hard and being successful in buying business. They are winning contracts with government and LE buy underbidding everyone. It is highly rumored they won the Army contract because they were 180 million cheaper than Glock but no better and since they never finished the torture round 2, perhaps not as good. Combined with some very public issues with the P320 (don't drop it) and the P365, many question their Q&A. Rushed to market in order to support those contracts they are buying.

No thanks.
 
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Lastly SIG is trying hard and being successful in buying business. They are winning contracts with government and LE buy underbidding everyone.
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That’s not unique to Sig or the firearms industry. Isn’t that how Glock grabbed their market share with LEO’s.
 
I have been a Glock person for over 25 years. I own several Glocks and love them. Is there anything special about the S&W M&P line that could convince me to buy M&Ps primarily in 9mm and .45 ACP. Pretend you're a S&W salesperson and SELL me!

Sorry I can't help you. My advice would be to buy one quality 1911 in 45 acp, and a safe full of revolvers.

I guess a vintage gold cup would work
 
I'm 65 and have been shooting for many decades. In that time I've own many guns and have ALWAYS regretted selling guns that I like.

I own both M&P's and Glocks and after much stupidity I learned to keep them both. My Glocks have been the most reliable guns I've owned.
 
via has the right point...... BUT,....
Three are values to both guns. The Glock is fabulously reliable. I saw one article in a gun magazine many years ago which involved an operator from overseas who was challenged to throw his Browning High Power from a second floor window to the ground below while the challenger threw his Glock from the same window to see which would still be able and willing to use him his gun...... no challenge accepted..... tells a little about Glock reliability!
On the other hand that was at least 20 years ago........ today the path has been blazed for other guns to have similar reliability.
Enter the S&W M&P. The 2.0 version is superior to the other models, although I do like my 1.0 full size....... that said I would go with the 2.0 full size as a reliable, completely functional alternative to the Glock now.
I bought a 2.0 M-17 Model and am completely taken with it.
Ergonomically it is superior to the Glock. And,.... in my opinion, the most important point, is that it is the most accurate gun of the type ever made.
Get the 2.0 and don’t look back....!!
 
Come on children . The OP should have figure out what he will or won't do so does the rest of this really matter ?? NOPE
 
I was a Glock guy for 25 years and carried them at my PD job. Started out with an ancient, very early Gen2 Glock 21. Carried it on duty for 19 years, even shot in some informal competitions that a local sportsman's club used to put on every summer. I have over 50,000 rds through that gun. Aside from some of my reloads when I started reloading that I didn't get sized right, it has never malfunctioned. I then moved to a Gen4 G22 when a new Chief mandated that we had to carry issued guns. Carried it for about a year. 2000 rds or so, no mechanical issues, but the slide started rusting right away. Glock claimed that it was a nitride treatment issue, but refused to do anything about it, so I just kept it wiped down. Last was a Gen3 G19, personally owned that I carried for 2 or 3 years when another new Chief allowed us to carry personally owned guns again. 4 or 5 thousand rds, again no issues at all. I also have an ancient, early Gen2.5 G26 that I carried for backup and off duty for close to 20 years. 10,000 rds or so, never an issue.

I have a severe problem with Glocks customer service and corporate policies, so I had been looking for quite some time for an alternative to Glocks. Something that ran just as well and was as light to carry but was more ergonomic and got me away from Glocks. I tried an original Sigma (fit my hand VERY well, but the trigger was awful and, although I didn't know it then, the early ones were a train wreck), and an early 1.0 version of the M&P (very ergonomic, accurate and reliable but the trigger, again, sucked). Although Glock triggers aren't the best, they aren't bad, so I stuck to the Glocks.

I bought a very early 9mm Shield after a friend bought one to let me try. The trigger was a LOT better than the original M&Ps I had tried, so I was pretty enthused when S&W announced the release of the 2.0. The Shield replaced my G26, so I was down to just my G19 and the G42 I sometimes pocket carried. At the urging of an online acquaintenance, I bought a full sized 9mm 2.0 and tried it out. It turned out to be just what I had been looking for. VERY ergonomic, great trigger, accurate and reliable through 3 or 4 thousand rounds now. I liked my M&P so much that I was able to ditch the G19, as well. I started carrying my 9mm 2.0 on duty last spring and couldn't be happier. The choice wasn't an easy one, because I also had to spend a lot of cash on holsters and support equipment, including $100.00 for a new duty holster. I'm still happy I did it and would do it again in a heartbeat.

Having said all that, Glocks are good guns. They work well, are accurate enough and are, usually, as reliable as the day is long. I didn't get rid of my Glocks, they sit in the safe in case they are needed since I already have mags and support equipment, they are proven reliable and are paid for. In my case, I have had several bad experiences with Glock's customer service and don't care for some of their corporate policies that come from them being based in Austria and not understanding the gun culture in the US at all. That was my decision, I don't expect others to make the same one. The guns are good and serve well. You could do a lot worse than carrying them. However, from my experience, the M&P is better. Good luck with your choice, either should serve you well.
 
Even though this is an older thread, I'll jump in, why not?

I owned 4 Glocks in the past, all were reliable, good guns.

I like manual safeties, have never understood the near hatred some shooters have for a manual safety. Don't like it, don't use it, no problems. I find it hard to believe anyone can say there's never an occasion where a manual safety isn't a good idea. In any event, many of the current S&W pistols can be had w/o a manual safety.

Having said that, my M&P9 M2.0 is a fine gun. Not a lot of rounds through it so far, about 750 but completely reliable with all types of ammo. I like the aggressive grip and perfer the stock trigger to any of the Glocks I've owned. Don
 
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I would be a very lousy salesman I have never owned a Glock, but know they are great guns, if you are happy and can shoot one well why change. I don't care if you carry a Colt 1911 from the great war or a Single Action Army as long as it works for you carry on. I would much rather have a guy or girl watching my back with something they have carried for many years than the latest gun that they may not be as familiar with. Just about every auto pistol made today functions as it should right out of the box carry what works for you...
 
On another forum, a guy posted about a G 17 Gen 2 with 86,000 rounds through it. It was used in competition until about 80K, then retired. At 46K, the firing pin broke, Glock replaced it at no cost. At 30K, trigger spring broke. He changed recoil springs ever3-6K rounds.

He posted pictures. There was some finish wear where the slide release is located, but otherwise, the finish held up extremely well. He replaced the sights for competition.

He said for the first 30K rounds, the gun was seldom cleaned and oiled.

So, I'd keep my Glocks. They're bulletproof.
 
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