Cop Killer finally gets Justice

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After a 22 year delay, Lady Justice has finally come to Cop Killer
Troy Davis in the state of Georgia.

May God bless and be with the family of the slain Savannah Georgia
Police Officer Mark McFail,shot in the face in a Burger King Parking Lot
while trying to break up a fight.
 
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Lets' see: 7 of 9 witnesses who ID'd him recanted and some claimed police coercion.

Makes one wonder if he was the right guy. It's cases like this that make some oppose capital punishment.

Is there anything that makes his guilt certain? I didn't hear that on the news, but they generally oppose the death penalty and might have omitted it.
 
Texas Star said:
Lets' see: 7 of 9 witnesses who ID'd him recanted and some claimed police coercion.

Makes one wonder if he was the right guy. It's cases like this that make some oppose capital punishment.

Is there anything that makes his guilt certain? I didn't hear that on the news, but they generally oppose the death penalty and might have omitted it.
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Notice his last words were that he did not kill the man and that he did not have the gun. He did not say he was not there or that he did not have a part in the crime in some way.

Maybe a life sentence would have been an option but then I do not know what evidence was presented at trial. Whatever it was had to be enough to convence 12 jurors that he was guilty and then decide a death sentence was appropriate.

With any execution, there are those that claim the person was innocent. In this case there was a lot of people saying what a good man he was. No matter how bad a person is, there is always some good to the person. It could be that a good man did a bad thing or that he was just mixed in with the wrong crowd.

Whatever the case, the court system decided justice needed to be served and it was.
 
I believe Justice was done even if delayed 22 yrs.
What burns me is all of the people who spoke out against it so strongly from the Pope, Jimmy Carter, to the French president etc etc.
Where are they when so many victims are murdred, like the officer, or the raped, tortured, and then burned alive family of the Conneticut doctor,
not a PEEP out of them!
Steve W.
 
Texas Star said:
Lets' see: 7 of 9 witnesses who ID'd him recanted and some claimed police coercion.

Makes one wonder if he was the right guy. It's cases like this that make some oppose capital punishment.

Is there anything that makes his guilt certain? I didn't hear that on the news, but they generally oppose the death penalty and might have omitted it.
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It wasn't 7 of 9 but 7 of 32 prosecution witnesses.

5 of the 7 didn't recant the basic premise of seeing davis shoot the officer, the other two weren't allowed into the post trial sessions because the defense wouldn't let them - a clear signal that their recantation would have been destroyed on cross.

Don't believe the liberal bullcrap - this *** deserved to die, good riddance.
 
God said it best. "Thou Shalt not Kill". This moron executed a cop no less. He was convicted of the crime by a jury of his peers 22 yrs. ago. He's managed to live another 22 yrs on our dime. The bill for his stay in jail and the cost of the drugs to execute him should go to his family.
 
oldman45 said:
No matter how bad a person is, there is always some good to the person. It could be that a good man did a bad thing or that he was just mixed in with the wrong crowd.
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There once was a feller that helped get a whole nation to work.
This leader brought them out of poverty and despair and got them on the road to recovery- building superhighways, encouraging a national spirit and helped get many children off the streets and into youth groups...you could say he was one of the best community organizers ever!

That fellow was Adolf Hitler- a monster.

There have been many unassumingly "nice" people that have committed some of the worst atrocities.

I am terribly ashamed that Georgia does not execute more heinous monsters than Texas- we should fry/hang/execute one death row inmate a day, 365 days a year. That way, we'd be free of death row inmates in...about three months! :D Fortunately, in Georgia because of the state constitution, the Governor cannot grant a stay or commute a death sentence- so that helps keep just a smidgen of politics out of it. One less politician in the system to "crack" from the flawed emotional state of irrationally thinking protesters.
 
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I was offended by all the hugging and crying after the execution, if they wanted to protest because of opposition to death penalty ok, to say there was enough doubt to change to life in prison maybe ok. To act like we had lost a saint not ok.
 
27145 said:
The witnesses who recanted did so by affadavit, which is a sworn written document. The defense did not call them to the stand to testify. I would suggest because on the stand, the recanters would trip themselves up.

Troy Davis case - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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They should each be charged with and prosecuted for perjury. Or has the statute of limitations run out on their original testimony - Or does it start over again when they submitted the affidavits?

One way or the other they lied - Either then or now....

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If they lied back at the trial, then - it would seem - that they would be guilty of murder (?)
 
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This was purely the politics of racism. No one was running around crying about the scum bag executed in Texas for dragging a black man to death... That was OK...
 
DeadAye said:
They should each be charged with and prosecuted for perjury. Or has the statute of limitations run out on their original testimony - Or does it start over again when they submitted the affidavits?

One way or the other they lied - Either then or now....

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If they lied back at the trial, then - it would seem - that they would be guilty of murder (?)
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I believe the clock starts at the time when the affadavits were submitted. It would seem that's when the "crime" was committed.

If they didn't abet in the original crime, they would be witnesses only.
 
In some states "acting in concert" allows a person to be as guilty as the one who actually committed the crime. In certain circles, this whole drama would be dismissed as "nora nora". Adios, Troy.
 
Dennis The B said:
I believe the clock starts at the time when the affadavits were submitted. It would seem that's when the "crime" was committed.

If they didn't abet in the original crime, they would be witnesses only.
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I didn't mean that would have been involved in the murder of the police officer - They would be responsible for the execution of an *innocent* man by lying in a capitol crime trial. Seems to me that that's murder.

I'd also like to be clear that I don't think that ANYONE involved in carrying out a lawful order is guilty of anything - Only those that lied during the trial.
 
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I live in Atlanta and have followed this case for some time and even though there was no direct concrete evidence there was enough for a jury to convict him...Davis was envolved in another shooting that night and the shell casings from that shooting and the officers matched so I believe they got the right man and he got what was coming to him even if it is 20 years too late giving people like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson TV face time to play the race card.....

But here is the problem I have with the death penalty, it doesn't seem to be handed out equally across the board because people like Wayne Williams (the Atlanta child murderer) is still alive and will live in jail the rest of his life and if anyone should have been exterminated it is him....

Jeffrey Dahmer should have gotten the death penalty but got life in prison but thank God another con took him out and we are still hearing from Charles Manson who should also be dead way before now...

Personally I think leathal injection is way too easy of a way out and the death penalty doesn't prevent future crime at all... Clayton County deputy Rick Daly was shot and killed by a 16 year old kid here recently and that punk wasn't thinking about getting a needle when he pulled the trigger on officer Daly...

I really think the absolute worst punishment would be what Eric Robert Rudolph got...If I knew that I had to be in a 8 x 10 cell 23 hours a day forever and have no hope of ever seeing another sun up without bars in front of it THAT would be much worse than a little needle stick and go nighty night to me...
 
I think the death penalty should be revised in all 50 States.

1. No death penalty allowed when there is only circumstantial evidence in the specific case. The burden of proof must be higher than that. Scott Peterson, in California, is an example of a recent case where there is circumstantial evidence only, yet he got a death sentence. In his case (california) everyone knows he will never be executed, but the sentence he got is still wrong. IMO anyway.

2. After someone is given a death sentence, an independent review of the entire case should be required, done within 1 year by an unbiased, all citizen board, to see if they agree with the penalty, or if they think it is inappropriate for any reason with the particular case. This board could be chosen, seated, and paid for pretty much like our jury system is used. Neither the defense or the prosecution can participate in board selection, it is done independently of the biases of either side.

3. If the board finds circumstances they don't like, they have the power to commute the sentence to life without parole. Period. End of story.

4. If they find nothing object to, that the laws have been adhered to all the way through, sentence is to be carried out within 30 days of their decision. No more 20+ years of waiting for justice.
 
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Well, I'm 3rd generation law enforcement, and I just don't know. After 22 years, I don't see that a little more time would have made that much difference to make sure that JUSTICE (whatever that means these days?) was truly done.
 
geoff40 said:
I think the death penalty should be revised in all 50 States.

1. No death penalty allowed when there is only circumstantial evidence in the specific case. The burden of proof must be higher than that. Scott Peterson, in California, is an example of a recent case where there is circumstantial evidence only, yet he got a death sentence. In his case (california) everyone knows he will never be executed, but the sentence he got is still wrong. IMO anyway.

2. After someone is given a death sentence, an independent review of the entire case should be required, done within 1 year by an unbiased, all citizen board, to see if they agree with the penalty, or if they think it is inappropriate for any reason with the particular case. This board could be chosen, seated, and paid for pretty much like our jury system is used. Neither the defense or the prosecution can participate in board selection, it is done independently of the biases of either side.

3. If the board finds circumstances they don't like, they have the power to commute the sentence to life without parole. Period. End of story.

4. If they find nothing object to, that the laws have been adhered to all the way through, sentence is to be carried out within 30 days of their decision. No more 20+ years of waiting for justice.
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1. Not every murder case has direct evidence. Circumstantial evidence means that each bit of evidence, taken in its entirety, adds up to guilt. Guilt in any criminal matter requires guilt beyond reasonable doubt, not all doubt.

2. The appeals process, through state and Federal courts is what's accomplished in most every capital murder case in states which have the death penalty. What you are proposing is a complete shortcut of the judicial process. Most states have a mandatory appeal in capital cases.

3. Just what makes some "panel" any less biased than the prosecutor or someone associated with the trial? The prosecutor, judge, defense attorney, and accused went through a public trial. I don't know how you can assume the "panel" will be more thorough than the trial and evidentiary process. To toss out a jury's verdict, would be the ultimate injustice, just to satisfy some "unbiased all citizen board". Just what do you think the jury is?

4. It's not the fault of anyone, except the process, that these appeals take so long. The trial attorneys seldom handle appeals. So, the appeals attorney(s) have to review everything that was presented at trial, while preparing the mandatory appeals. Appeals courts are overwhelmed with cases. Even during appeals, errors and omissions from the trial may or may not, be included/excluded.

We have the worst judicial system in the world, except for every other country.
 
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One less pimple on the posterior of society - make that two less as the same thing applies to the lowlife in Texas.
 
Saint Troy shot someone else earlier that night, and was convicted of that shooting. The casings recovered in that shooting matched the casing recovered at the scene of the officer's murder.

Plenty of reliable witnesses put him there, shooting the officer in the face.

This case has been appealed all the way up to the Supreme Court. All found he had a fair trial with plenty of evidence of guilt.

Recanted witness testimony is common, and given appropriate weight on appeal.

He did it, he's dead. God Bless the family of Mark MacPhail, who was only trying to keep a homeless guy from being beaten to death.
 
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