coronavirus

I should have mentioned that 230 in Italy have died of the virus with 5988 cases identified as of just now. Two US TSA screeners have become infected as well.



It's deadly serious in Italy, and they are considering locking down the Lombardy region from all travel.



They did it. Here is the map of quarantined regions, that's 16 million people quarantined.

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They did it. Here is the map or quarantined regions, that's 16 million people quarantined.
Looks bad for the critically ill. I saw this on Reuters this morning:

"We're now being forced to set up intensive care treatment in corridors, in operating theaters, in recovery rooms. We've emptied entire hospital sections to make space for seriously sick people," Antonio Pesenti, head of the Lombardy regional crisis response unit, told the Corriere della Sera newspaper.

"One of the best health systems in the world, in Lombardy is a step away from collapse," he said.
 
I don't need no masks or sanitizers or none a them other things...I'm protected when I'm inside...

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and I'm protected when I go outside. I ain't a skeered a no virus.

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Back in Germany, it was my aunt's 91st birthday today. My folks had to sneak into her apartment in the senior residence in ones and twos at timed intervals not to attract attention, because large gatherings had been banned by management.

Since it may well be my aunt's last, they weren't going to let a virus stop them.

When I got my aunt on the phone, she was very happy that the operation, including insertion and extraction of participants, had been a success. She sounded a bit like she was telling me about the Raid on Entebbe ;)
 
Back in Germany, it was my aunt's 91st birthday today. My folks had to sneak into her apartment in the senior residence in ones and twos at timed intervals not to attract attention, because large gatherings had been banned by management.

Since it may well be my aunt's last, they weren't going to let a virus stop them.

When I got my aunt on the phone, she was very happy that the operation, including insertion and extraction of participants, had been a success. She sounded a bit like she was telling me about the Raid on Entebbe ;)

An old (88) family friend has been in assisted living for over a year and is very frail. This isn't looking good for him nor my 88 yr old mother. The people pooh poohing this at this stage are truly lame and proud of it.
 
An old (88) family friend has been in assisted living for over a year and is very frail. This isn't looking good for him nor my 88 yr old mother. The people pooh poohing this at this stage are truly lame and proud of it.

It's not ok to make fun while people are dying, we don't really know where this is going right now.

Thank your first responders, police, fire, EMS, and healthcare professionals who are in the mix.
 
arjay, my mom is almost 87 with COPD. She is at extremely high risk from any flu virus.

She hasn't pulled a Howard Hughes yet but she is limiting her contact with the outside world and wearing out the hand soap.

She isn't laughing at it.

The craziest part is they're worried about stroke boy lol (me)
 
An old (88) family friend has been in assisted living for over a year and is very frail. This isn't looking good for him nor my 88 yr old mother. The people pooh poohing this at this stage are truly lame and proud of it.

I think the pooh-poohing, especially for political reasons because certain people don't want to look inept, is certainly inappropriate.

However, poking fun at over-reactions and the generally strained relationship Americans have with science, and actions based on it, serves a useful purpose.
 
However, poking fun at over-reactions and the generally strained relationship Americans have with science, and actions based on it, serves a useful purpose.

Could not agree more. My definition of the "typical science reporter, either on TV or in a Newspaper" is "Ah s/he failed high school biology and took up newspaper/TV journalism because of the lack of rigor in those fields."

I have had too many "run-ins" with so-called science reporters during my years at NIH when the "publicity folks" wanted to "trot out a tame scientist" that after the third time, I was crossed off their invitation lists!! Always a problem when the science does not match the "journalist's preconceived ideas!!" Dave_n
 
Y'all can freak out if you want to. My understanding is similar to Rastoff's. If you're not in a high risk category, it's about as bad as other viral respiratory infections (flu). With 7 kids in 4 different schools it's only a matter of time before I'll have to take the Immune Challenge.

I'm not gonna fret about it.

You can now return to your regularly scheduled state of panic. :cool:
 
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Y'all can freak out if you want to. My understanding is similar to Rastoff's. If you're not in a high risk category, it's about as bad as other viral respiratory infections (flu). With 7 kids in 4 different schools it's only a matter of time before I'll have to take the Immune Challenge.

I'm not gonna fret about it.

You can now return to your regularly scheduled state of panic. :cool:



You need to do some serious reading about this virus, it is not just another flu. You have a number of very uninformed opinions
 
Looking at the numbers, if true, it's not as bad as the media is selling.

While it may or may not be the same as the flu, I'll be taking the same precautions as I normally do with immunocompromised folks - I'm a caregiver to my 88 year old mother who has a autoimmune disease and is being treated with immunosuppressants(sp) - that's being clean and avoiding others as much as possible. Being clean is the most important, IMO. Realistically, that's about all I can do.
 
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Looking at the numbers, if true, it's not as bad as the media is selling.

While it may or may not be the same as the flu, I'll be taking the same precautions as I normally do with immunocompromised folks - I'm a caregiver to my 88 year old mother who has a autoimmune disease and is being treated with immunosuppressants(sp) - that's being clean and avoiding others as much as possible. Being clean is the most important, IMO. Realistically, that's about all I can do.



The numbers are a conservative guess being pushed by a re-election campaign that's hoping for the best.we really don't know how many undiagnosed carriers are out and about spreading it. The average carrier feels fine for five days or more and infects quite a few people before feeling sick. That's where the main problem lies,the potential for overwhelming our healthcare system is very real. I think the naysayers on this forum need to start talking to people who actually work in healthcare to get an understanding of where this may go.
 
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