coronavirus

arjay said:
He doesn't believe this is serious because it isn't affecting him personally (yet) My daughter self quarantined yesterday with all the symptoms (nyc)
I live in a household where everyone is high risk
Delcrossv is nothing but a troll and I've blocked him
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Glad arjay did. Don't get caught up in the hysteria like he is. ;)
 
I live in Tacoma, WA. Last night was my last 'public gathering' evening for a while. People were crammed in at the bar at my local pub, as they always were - a fellow in his 80's right next to me, and two in their 70's next to him. Nothing has changed. I headed over to another bar for pool league and found the same thing - nothing has changed there either. I spoke with a few people about it and they all seem to feel this is overblown.

When I got home I caught hell from my live-in girlfriend. It's her house so things are changing starting today. I'm retired so this will be difficult, but I get it - she has two 80-ish sickly parents that she visits regularly.

As she put it - this is just a small 2-3 month sliver of your life. Showing extra caution for this small period should be no big deal.

I have an Airbnb in Seattle that is now empty. This means a loss of about $10,000 before Summer even gets here. But I get it.

The good news is that you don't see the normal coughing people in public any more, as social pressure is a huge deal here in the PacNW. As a result, I doubt we'll have much of a flu season and possibly some of the safe behavior will carry forward and we'll be healthier in the future.
 
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Regardless of whether this affects us individually the trickledown effect on the economy could be huge. Many large conventions, conferences, concerts etc. are being cancelled. This affects those people employed at all levels of the hospitality industry. Hotels, restaurants, transportation and such.

My son is operations manager at the Branson Convention Center in Branson, MO., talked to him yesterday and they had 1 cancellation and 3 more pending then.
 
Everyone on this forum shush up and
wait 6 months to 9 months.

Then come back and say "nyah, nyah,
nyah it was nothin'" or "tol' ya so and
now you're dead."

But one bit of advice: Better to error
on the side of super awareness/caution.
 
ladder13 said:
It's not ok to make fun while people are dying, we don't really know where this is going right now.

Thank your first responders, police, fire, EMS, and healthcare professionals who are in the mix.
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Amen ladder13. I'm as bad as the next person when it comes to trying to see the humor in most situations in life, but there is a line not to be crossed and this COVID-19 has drawn it, world wide. My old stomping grounds in Pelham, NY which sits between New Rochelle and Mt. Vernon is basically the epi-center in NYS for the virus. Any time a governor feels the pressure to call out the NG is a Big Deal. Our thoughts and prayers for all the victims today and thousands most certainly to come are called for; not jokes. Little story; I had my semi-annual bloodwork/PCM visit yesterday here in the N. VA/DC Metro area and was surprised when I asked my doctor what his office is doing to get a handle on the current situation and he said not much. This is because his medical group, INOVA, has so far not issued its medical staffs any concrete parameters/advice on procedures when treating patients. He told me he doesn't have any test kits yet and that if any of his patients suspect they may be infected they will have to be tested at the County health office because they're the only ones with the kits at this point. If that's the situation in Washington, DC what do you suspect it probably is everywhere else? He told me the give him a call if I think I'm infected; over 60, sore throat, sustained fever and problems breathing are the primary indicators and he'll call ahead to the county health office and get me tested. While I'm ok with that response, I can certainly appreciate those who'd have a far different one. He also asked if it was ok for him to put his stethoscope on my chest to check my breathing and I said sure why not? He said he's supposed to now get permission from patients before touching them in any way. My thought then is unless it's a medical emergency stay at home and self-isolate if you can until told it's ok to do otherwise. So back to your original comment about all the military, first responders, LEOs and anyone else who has a job they can't afford to stay at home from, pray that the good Lord will look after them especially.
Chuck
 
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Well, we haven't had any confirmed cases in town yet.

But just now I got a phone call from a local retirement community where I was supposed to visit this afternoon, telling me to stay away.

They've gone into lockdown, and are not allowing any outside visitors. I hope they're just being over-cautious.
 
29-1 said:
Amen ladder13. I'm as bad as the next person when it comes to trying to see the humor in most situations in life, but there is a line not to be crossed and this COVID-19 has drawn it, world wide. My old stomping grounds in Pelham, NY which sits between New Rochelle and Mt. Vernon is basically the epi-center in NYS for the virus. Any time a governor feels the pressure to call out the NG is a Big Deal. Our thoughts and prayers for all the victims today and thousands most certainly to come are called for; not jokes. Little story; I had my semi-annual bloodwork/PCM visit yesterday here in the N. VA/DC Metro area and was surprised when I asked my doctor what his office is doing to get a handle on the current situation and he said not much. This is because his medical group, INOVA, has so far not issued its medical staffs any concrete parameters/advice on procedures when treating patients. He told me he doesn't have any test kits yet and that if any of his patients suspect they may be infected they will have to be tested at the County health office because they're the only ones with the kits at this point. If that's the situation in Washington, DC what do you suspect it probably is everywhere else? He told me the give him a call if I think I'm infected; over 60, sore throat, sustained fever and problems breathing are the primary indicators and he'll call ahead to the county health office and get me tested. While I'm ok with that response, I can certainly appreciate those who'd have a far different one. He also asked if it was ok for him to put his stethoscope on my chest to check my breathing and I said sure why not? He said he's supposed to now get permission from patients before touching them in any way. My thought then is unless it's a medical emergency stay at home and self-isolate if you can until told it's ok to do otherwise. So back to your original comment about all the military, first responders, LEOs and anyone else who has a job they can't afford to stay at home from, pray that the good Lord will look after them especially.
Chuck
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Chuck, we may have crossed paths in Marty and Lenny's or Peachtree back in the day.
 
GypsmJim said:
People are going to get the virus, and some will die. People are going to get the flu, and some will die. In time it will pass. But the collateral damage is what will last a long time.

Parts from China are not arriving. US companies are furloughing workers because they can't manufacture some products.

Industries like boats, RVs and such are taking a hit because 401Ks are diving and some people can't afford luxury items.

Anything travel related is taking a bad hit because people are afraid.

We're headed for a recession...or worse.

I'm not worried about getting sick....I'm worried about going bankrupt!
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This says all there is to say about the "House of Cards" economies that evolved following the computerization of Wall Street and the like.
 
Now it's getting personal for me. I retired from Shell Chemical Co in Y2K. My old shift foreman and Operating assistant had set up a reunion for all retired Shell hands that had worked in the BA/Sulfer Recovery unit. It was to have been tomorrow at a local eatery.

I worked with some terrific folks. I would have retired a couple of years earlier but I didn't want to leave my crew. I hate that we had to postpone it until this mess blows over but it is absolutely the right thing to do. Live to fight another day.....

A point to ponder. Everyone that becomes contaminated will be responsible for contaminating many others and so will every one THEY contaminate and so on and so forth. The rate it could spread will escalate exponentially.

Over reacting might give us all a better outcome than UNDER reacting.

I know a lot of folks are not taking this very seriously. That in itself could make this a bad situation. I hope they are right but I am not taking any chances. Not over reacting just using a little due caution and common sense.

I know I'm not over reacting because I am not seeing the need to stock up on toilet paper. :rolleyes:

Edit to add another point to ponder:
It is awful enough of most of the population of Earth dies from this stuff. But close your eyes for a minute and try to visualize the post apocalyptic world...You have all seen these kinds of movies and read the books. All supplies and services are gone and the evil element comes out in most of those that are left.

Let me just say this: I don't want to live for one day in a world of Nuclear winter, or one where I have to steal and kill to survive. It gets a whole lot more serious than no internet connection.....
 
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Bottom line

I am extremely sad to post my feelings on this terrible epidemic. As if this epidemic, and it's end result isn't bad enough, we now see the human vultures going into action, and the skills, equipment, and skullduggery, that they are willing to use, to obtain the immense amount of money that's available to unscruplious people.

Chubbo
 
walkin jack said:
I know I'm not over reacting because I am not seeing the need to stock up on toilet paper. :rolleyes:
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I didn't see the need either. Then yesterday I went grocery shopping and found that TP is being rationed. They didn't have any on the shelves either.
 
GypsmJim said:
I didn't see the need either. Then yesterday I went grocery shopping and found that TP is being rationed. They didn't have any on the shelves either.
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Think....old t shirts, news papers, catalogues and yes...even corn cobbs. a lot of things in life have alternatives. If I'm gonna panic over something it dang sure ain't gonna be toilet paper. :rolleyes:
 
Italy - with a first world health system is letting older virus pts DIE - because of a lack of ventilators and ICU beds - That hasn't happened with the flu

I truly hope we can get prepared before it gets that bad here.
 
pawngal said:
WHO declares the coronavirus outbreak a global pandemic

World Health Organization has just announced declaring it a Global Pandemic

YouTube
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Is that the same World Health Organization that promotes gun control and says violence involving guns is a HEALTH issue? The same one that is part of the UN? The one that promotes the US signing onto the UN small arms treaty that would effectively disarm us all? That World Health Organization? The one that is always coming at us with their hand out? The one the US so recently decided to cut back funding for?

Yeah, they couldn't possibly be politically motivated, or biased, or have any kind of agenda. They only want what's best for all of us.:rolleyes:
 
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